BOB Combat arena

[Loddar]

Now we have the Battle of Britain map and no STUKA

Please bring on German side the
- Junkers Ju87B Stuka
- Heinkel He111H
- Dornier Do17Z

on British side the
- Bristol Blenheim
- Bristol Beaufighter
(- Gloster Gladiator)
(- Boulton Paul Defiant)

Then we could play an huge Battle of Britain scenario in the future

[Sabre]

I agree we need the 111, but the Stuka was withdrawn pretty early in the BoB due to grevious losses.  It's absence can thus be forgiven.  I would like to see the Blenheim too, but at least we're getting the Havoc, which I believe was in wide spread service with coastal command and bomber command at this time.  Beaufighter came later, did it not?  I'm also not sure how many Do17's participated, but I'm pretty sure the 111 bore the brunt for the Luftwaffe.  Boltan-Paul was also a death-trap for it's crews, once the German's adjusted their tactics.  It was relegated to training and (later) to night-fighter configuration, where it was at least less deadly to it's crews.  Give it time...HTC is finally getting around to early war, and there's a lot of it to do.  I'm just glad the Pac threater is getting such a boost next release.

[Loddar]

I agree Sabre, the Stuka Geschwader had too many losses, but I think of other terrains like Africa and the Eastern Assault 1941. The Stuka is in Service so many years there and the highest decorated Luftwaffe Officer "Rudel" fly Stukas too.

I agree, that the new Pac Terrain planes must have all attention at the moment, but it is for near future plans. Another question, why HTC release the P40E Kittyhawk and not earlier models, I think the P40B Warhawk was up to date at Pearl Harbour 1941, isn't it ?

I think also, HTC have to think about releases like the A6M2 or the Wildcat in main arena. No false thinking, I like these planes, but nobody fly these planes really, if they had their P51s or FW190s or something like that late war planes. What do you think about a plane rotation like in an other simulation.

[Wotan]

The stuka had a large number of losses but was withdrawn primarily as the lw changed its strtagey in the BOB

Stuka Thread

This is an old thread. The research wasnt done by me but it gives an idea what the reasons behind the withdrawl of the stuka

[cajun]

Originally posted by Loddar
Now we have the Battle of Britain map and no STUKA

Please bring on German side the
- Junkers Ju87B Stuka
- Heinkel He111H
- Dornier Do17Z

on British side the
- Bristol Blenheim
- Bristol Beaufighter
(- Gloster Gladiator)
(- Boulton Paul Defiant)

Then we could play an huge Battle of Britain scenario in the future

Yes definitally bring Gloster Gladiator and Fairey Sword Fish for british, Hs-123 (German biplane dive bomber w/1000lbs of bombs and 2x20mms or 7.7's) and Ju87 would be nice too!

[brady]

I would have to say no thank you to the He 111 at the momenent, it would be redundant and done at the expense of adding other sorly neaded aircraft for Germany and more importantly other countries, we have the JU 88 a far better Buff than the He 111 and it was in service during the BOB anyway.

 I used to feal that the JU 87 would be a big waste of time, that their were survivable and viable mounts to represent it's role, that is a ground atack anti GV platform, but realy it's has a great bombload for it's type and this fact alone warent's it's adation, it could certainly be made use of, and Wotan's is very illumnating.

 Realy we have a good mix of toys for the British at the moment, what with the Boston coming and all, I doubt wheather we will see a Blenihm in the near future, Howeaver I would like a beaufighter it is a personal favorate of mine, other than that I see no real presing nead for it.

 The only planes missing from yor list are CR 42's:) for the Italians:) they flew in the BOB, as well as Fiat G 50's I think.

 Also I am happy we are geting some of the areas flushed out like the PAC set, hopefully more early war stuff is on the way:)

[Karnak]

Relax, the Val is coming and can be used as a placeholder for the Stuka.

Its about time the Japanese planeset subsidized the German planeset rather than the other way about.

[brady]

Prety shure the bombload thing would be so glaring a deference as to make that unatractive, also the val is made out of glass and the Stuka considerably more surivable. I beleave the Stuka could pak around 1800KG of bombs the Val could do around 370kg BIG diferance, you would have a better chance in a JU 88 dive bombing with a lighter load than taking up a Val.