Author Topic: Saudi Government Daily: "You [the U.S.] Will Vanish, But We Will Remain" (Read 809 times)

datter · « **on:** May 17, 2002, 08:25:25 AM »

read this toejam...

http://www.theofficersclub.com/osic/archives/00000171.htm

Curval · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2002, 08:43:02 AM »

pfffttt...

Suadi Arabia should be "next"...not Iraq.

Staga · « **Reply #2 on:** May 17, 2002, 08:55:35 AM »

When reading texts like that you should leave your personal feelings out and try to see bigger picture: Is that what common Arab thinks, why are they thinking like that and what kind of threat that is to us (western people).

Replies like that only shows you're soul-mates with the guy who wrote that thought in another side of the barb-wire.

Curval · « **Reply #3 on:** May 17, 2002, 08:58:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Staga
When reading texts like that you should leave your personal feelings out and try to see bigger picture: Is that what common Arab thinks, why are they thinking like that and what kind of threat that is to us (western people).

Replies like that only shows you're soul-mates with the guy who wrote that thought in another side of the barb-wire.

[Curval spots a tempting worm wiggling on the end of a hook...but does not take the bait]

Sikboy · « **Reply #4 on:** May 17, 2002, 09:06:53 AM »

Did you guys read the whole article?

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Originally ranted by some Saudi "Journalist"
"Let us say it once and for all: We have nothing against Jews. This is a fact. We have nothing against any people for what they believe or how they believe. Those of us who do are interpreting Muslim scriptures as American fundamentalists are interpreting Christian scriptures. It is hard to believe the Pope, of the Vatican as an institution, endorses Jerry Falwell – just to give one example. But, like the French during Nazi occupation, the Russians against the French occupation, the Americans against the British occupation, we take issue with the occupier. Hence our sense of martyrdom."

I hate to say this, because there is pleanty not to like about the Saudi press, but I didn't find this editorial very offensive or worrisome. This guy obviously ties US and Israeli actions, which I dissagree with. However, when he says that "The US will Dissapear but we will remain" He doesn't appear to be saying that the Saudis will destroy America, but rather, that like the powers that have been in the region before (and he likes to use the Romans, I supsect because of the decadence of Caligula) the US will one day retreat from the region. And if we choose nuclear anihilation for the region, than they will survive because of their faith. My sister happens to agree with this notion, but she's Christain, and calls it Rapture. There are far worse offenses by the Saudi Press.

But that website http://www.memri.org/index.html is pretty badass.

-Sikboy

Curval · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2002, 09:12:41 AM »

I can't help it....the worms are just too tempting.

I take issue with the term "occupier" being leveled at the West.

Frankly Saudi Arabia could be ruled by Sadaam right now, without those occupiers.

Sikboy · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2002, 09:18:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Curval
I take issue with the term "occupier" being leveled at the West.

I'm with you on that. In fact, I dissagree with pretty much everything the guy said. (Although I thought the crack about Condi bringing books over from Stanford was kinda funny, and betrayed his American Education) All I'm saying is that the Article didn't strike me as particularly inflamitory, compared to the headline that was used to reference it.

-Sikboy

Curval · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2002, 09:40:56 AM »

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Originally posted by Sikboy

All I'm saying is that the Article didn't strike me as particularly inflamitory, compared to the headline that was used to reference it.
-Sikboy

True...no argument here.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2002, 10:06:32 AM »

When religion is misconstrued and distorted that article is the knidling on a fire. Guys, I have said the following since 9/11, it is going to get a hell of a lot worse, before any positives happen. I sincerely doubt the Saudi Prince has these feelings. A lot of what i have heard out of Saudi, is a bunch of lip service leaning abit towards Palestine, which I completely understand. Think about it for a second, they have to tread water during this because he has to be afraid of attacks (a lot closer to home) on his soil. He's playing the field right now and this idiot "Dr. whatever his name is" will be the one "martyr for some stupid cause"that will be forgotten.
The U.S. would steamroll ANY middle country like Iraq.

Nevermind guys I'll let you say some stuff right now, I'm getting pissed.

"God Bless America, my home sweet home"

Masher

straffo · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2002, 10:14:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Curval
I can't help it....the worms are just too tempting.

I take issue with the term "occupier" being leveled at the West.

Frankly Saudi Arabia could be ruled by Sadaam right now, without those occupiers.

Yep but choosing between Sadam or the Saoudian king is a no go situation ... both are scumbags
We (westerner) have choosen the Saoudian and they were supporting Bin Laden ... talk about a wining situation ...

Nashwan · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2002, 10:20:06 AM »

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But that website http://www.memri.org/index.html is pretty badass.

Memri is run by a member of the Moledet party in Israel.

The Moledet party has as it's central policy the forcefull deportation of all Arabs out of Israel and the West Bank/Gaza, all 3 - 4,000,000 of them.

In other words, it has an agenda.

Sikboy · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2002, 10:29:55 AM »

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Originally posted by Nashwan

In other words, it has an agenda.

As opposed to those many many unbiased media outlets

But seriously, it's infomation. Take it for what it's worth. As I said, I didn't find the article all that inflamitory. But, in the interest of information sharing, do you have an unbiased, or pro-palestein newsources that provide translations of Arabic media articles?

Lastly, is there any chance we can keep this thread on the topic of the article posted, or even the Middle East media in general? It's a little refreshing to me, compared to how our Middle East threads usually go.

-Sikboy

Toad · « **Reply #12 on:** May 17, 2002, 10:30:04 AM »

Well, we will eventually withdraw from the region...... just as soon as we get these dang hydrogen fuel cell thingies working real good.

"Oh, yes Abdul! I would most certainly like another serving of Sand Soup! It is the perfect compliment to the Sandy Salad, don't you agree? And most perfect before the main course of Roast Sand! Thank you my friend!"

Pollock · « **Reply #13 on:** May 17, 2002, 10:34:12 AM »

I caught this post in an already pissed of mood. And know im really torqued! We need 3 new lakes on the world map know.

1. Lake Afghanistan (dont give a toejam if I spelled it wrong)

2. Lake Iraq

3. Lake Saudi Arabia

Staga · « **Reply #14 on:** May 17, 2002, 10:54:32 AM »

[butthead]
Hehehehe yeah, bomb 'em to hell huhuhuhu
[/butthead]