AH vs WB3? (no flame!)

[-txmx-]

Hey all,

I know some of you flying Aces High are former players from Warbirds. I currently fly Warbirds III and would like to know how you guys like Aces High? How does it compare?

I really like the planeset and all in Aces High and this in no flamefest about wich one of the sims are the better one etc. I have the same great respect for both sims and communities.

As said above, i just like to hear how both sims compare. What is the good things in AH compared to WB3 and vice versa?

Best regards,

// -txmx-
Jagdgeschwader 26 "Schlageter"
Warbirds III

[oboe]

AH is developing rapidly.   New releases, packed with features and planes, occur on about 4 month intervals.   I can't comment too much about WB III, but I think its a given that it has superior graphics, and MAC support.

AH wins on strategy, planeset, subscription price, numbers in the arena.  Its got a two week free trial - why don't you DL and try it for yourself?

[moose]

I dont think a non-bias answer is possible. Even though most of the people on these boards squeak like little babies about how AH sucks they still think it's better then WB3

Oboe hit it right on - try it for yourself, 2 weeks free without even using a credit card #.

As for me, I actually felt more a part of the community here then I ever did in WB. I also like the fact AH is entirely HTC's thing, I can't get the hang of the PDC that WB uses. (they deserve a lot of credit for the work they do though) The fact that hotseat and crew aren't really running the show but are just paid programmers makes me feel uncomfortable too.

AH has the numbers. The new planes look real good and I don't know if WB3 has better modelling. I tried it during a free weekend a few months ago and it wouldn't run right on my machine and I was limited to 800x600 and it didn't look that good.

I miss a lot of the guys from WB. I remember a flight leader from the Blitzkrieg scenario... -oz- or -ozms-... oz something. That guy was a gas. Plus the old squad I was in hasnt moved over either -> Haze. Vert looks like he's working real hard to keep those tft's alive.

I think both sims have their advantages, but for the most part it's apples and oranges to me.

[AKDejaVu]

The truly great thing about Aces High is that you can try it for yourself for two weeks absolutely free... no strings attatched.

AKDejaVu

[-txmx-]

Tnx for the input guys - will definetly download and try!
Btw, how exactly does the strat work in AH?

// -txmx-
Jagdgeschwader 26 "Schlageter"
Warbirds III

[Wotan]

txmx i remember from my short stint in wb3

wb3 nik was -wubke

if you need anything in game i fly as a knight

Strat is to hard a question for me to answer

Strat

Try the link above

[Löwe]

txmx.
I remember you from my days in warbirds, back when I was Kommodore of JG51. I wrestled with the idea of going to AH, once WarbirdsIII came out, it was just a dissapointment to me. back in October I gave AH a try, I have never looked back. I have become  an Allied Squid pilot now instead of Luftwaffe, but AH rocks, the LW planes are awesome, and visit the CT arena, it's the AH version of the Historical Arena, I think you'll love it here.
Salute!

[Greese]

I feel I can trust the leadership and judgement of the HTC crew.  That says a lot for me.  I feel the developers are in control, and they put out a great product that is a very nice work in progress.  I like knowing that it is still in progress, and though we will get info on what's next to expect, usually more comes than what we were expecting, versus always hearing about features that never came.  
I like the plane graphics in WB better, but I enjoy flying in AH environments better.  I also appreciate that AH tries to make itself available to the greater population by limiting it's graphics to meet the needs of the average computer owner.  I myself have a higher end unit, but I wouldn't want to feel like I'm excluding a large number of people just because my plane looks a bit nicer.
Download size.
I think it all really boils down to how much fun you have, and to me AH is more fun.  You can try it out for yourself at no charge or obligation (and full realism).
Also, it is easy for me to support a company like AH, they are a top notch bunch, that over the two or so years I have been reading these boards, have only impressed me more and more.

[AKcurly]

Originally posted by -txmx-
Tnx for the input guys - will definetly download and try!
Btw, how exactly does the strat work in AH?

// -txmx-
Jagdgeschwader 26 "Schlageter"
Warbirds III

txmx, download the help document.  It's hyperlinked and pretty much covers the subject.

curly

[poopster]

Txmx I'm going on 3 weeks over here. 4 or 5 years over there the last couple with JG 2. Were doin IL-2 at the hyperlobby of late.

But I'm a Main animal..

I fly for fun. I don't fly for God and Country, I don't fly for rank, I don't fly for medals or anything else that is the usual requirement in a "squad".

Squads with those requirements, and a "grace" period, must provide a GOOD dental plan, medical, and pay me the prevailing wage..

And I don't come cheap

I hop in a plane, and go out and kill somethin working with who is in the area  Talk some smack, clear a six and die miserbly.. A real Main kinda guy. LOVE IT !!

I might wanna be a cherry picker, I might want to be a furballer. I might spend the night getting guys to dive on me and see what shakes out..

You CAN'T do that over there.

AH brings back what WB was in the 2.5 days looong time ago. With better graphics yada, yada, yada.

The important thing that I learned from coming over here is, I didn't lose my passion for WWII flight sims.

The sim I was in, dropped the ball and became a shell of what it once was.

Take a trial, fogitabot flying offline, it's the people that make this place fun, a WHOLE lot of people

Download Mitsu's sound pack, work on the different timing required here, have some good fights and you'll never look back.

[LtHans]

WB has:

1.  Better plane graphics.  They look real good, and not a buggy landing gear or disapearing gun barrel to be found.

2.  More interesting ground vehicles and towns.  By a damn side.

3.  Rolling terrain.

4.  Artillery

AH has:

1.  Better programmers.  Pyro and HiTech started from scratch and are well past the progress that WarBirds had.  That, and I get the feeling that HiTech and Pyro won't piss off their employees like IMOL did (all quit, forming AH and World War II Online).  That carries wieght with me.

2.  Pyro and HiTech can take alot of the credit for making WarBirds the sim it is today, as they helped create it.

3.  Ships.

4.  Fast updates.  WarBirds is few and far between.   Mostly it's been slow upgrades of vehicles from what I've seen, not anything new.  They even farm out work to players to pinch pennies (skin textures and such for planes).

5.  Faster planes.  WarBirds has sluggish planes to keep internet lag down.  AH doesn't, and it seems to work fine.



Alot of what I like about AH over WB is psychological.  They're not that disimilar enough to say one is better, so I go with the people over the game then.  Not to belittle the guys who work on WB, but IMOL upper management seemed to be dickheads, and that was enough for me to turn my back.  I do feel bad for their employees though, as they've done nothing to me, and I used to love WB.

[Wilbus]

Not too hard to answer IMO, played Started playing WB back in the 1.9 days, continued untill AH got out and during AH beta I almost only played AH.

To comment on some WB3 things that I like I can say the graphics of planes and animations (!) are very nice, nice, very nice gera animations etc no disapiering gears as soon as they get near the wing.
That however, is almost the only thing I like about it, terrain is starting to look very good there too.

Flight Model in AH, gunnery and dammage modell is FAR better.
As a 190 pilot I believe in high rate of roll, the 190 ha da VERY rapid roll accelertaion together with a VERY high rate of roll, the roll reached max speed almost instantaniously. Try it in WB 3 and you'll notice that your ailerons feel connected with rubber bands, look at ailerons, move stick fast left and it'll take maybe a second or two before the ailerons are fully deflected. I hate that and it's VERY wrong in the modelling.

Just my point of view though, look me up in the arena if you need help.

[Maniac]

Tjena TexMex!! long time no see!! pröva 2 veckors gratis perioden... Har själv inte flugit WB3 men gillar AH stenhårt...

Det krävs nog en del tid innan du blir van vid AH... Förkasta inte allt efter första sortien bara, låt 2 veckors perioden löpa ut innan du kritiserar AH för hårt

[robsan]

Allied Squid pilot

I'll have to remember that one

[Superfly]

Originally posted by LtHans


2.  Pyro and HiTech can take alot of the credit for making WarBirds the sim it is today, as they helped create it.

 

What about the rest of us at HTC?  We all worked on Warbirds too (except Aurelius).  Nobody ever gives the rest of us credit.