Originally posted by hazed-:
Having been one of those that called for the perking of the F4uc I would like to clarify my reasons for believing it needed it....
1. It was overcrowding the arena!
2. It was deadly from inside 800 yards even in a snapshot and it wasnt particulary hard to down any aircraft with very short bursts
3. It was blue
hehe ok basically it was down to its overpopulation of the arena.
FINALLY to the point of my post, the F4u4,
my question is simple, why is this aircraft perked for 60 points???
I flew it yesterday in the TA as MA was down and sure its very agile, climbs well, good dive etc but the guns are typical 50cal, ie it takes a fair amount of hits to down a target (though by no means hard to do with the 50s non-drop bullets) , where is the danger in this aircraft? have i missed something? is it faster than a tempest or something? I dont have info on this model so Im struggling to work out why its 60 perks to fly?
the F4uc was numerous, had the best 20mm in the game and often killed me from over 900 yards off my 6.It ruined the fun for me so i was well pleased to see its use reduced by perking it.The f4u4 just doesnt appear to be quite as dangerous as the f4uc to me.
have i missed something here?
ok heres a run down on my view of perk costs:
200 perks for me262 - overall good but maybe
150 a little easier to swallow when you lose one [150 perks?]
8 perks for f4uc - excellent works well but even this maybe needs slight reduction as they no longer flood the arena[4 perks?]
30 perks for ta152 - pretty close but i still feel it could come down some [20-25 perks?]
70 perks for tempest - maybe a little expensive but close [50-60 perks?]
60 perks for arado - probably right considering their rarity in WW2 but still a tad hi [ maybe 30 or 40 perks? ]
60 perks for F4u4 - just dont get it..
Hazed,
read this. from here
http://home.att.net/~historyzone/F4U-4.html So, perhaps now is a good time to summarize the performance of the F4U-4. Let’s compare it to the aircraft generally believed to be the best all-around fighter of World War Two, the North American P-51D Mustang.
Speed: The -4 was about 10 mph faster than the P-51D at the altitude where the Mustang developed it’s highest speed.
Advantage: F4U-4
Climb: The -4 Corsair was a remarkable climber despite its size and weight. It could out-climb the Mustang by nearly 800 fpm.
Advantage: F4U-4
Maneuverability: The F4U-4 was one of the very best. According to Jeffrey Ethell: "Of all World War II fighters, the Corsair was probably the finest in air-to-air combat for a balance of maneuverability and responsiveness. The -4, the last wartime version is considered by many pilots who have flown the entire line to be the best of them all….." Indeed, the F4U-4 had few, if any equals at the business of ACM (air combat maneuvering).
Advantage: F4U-4
Armament: Equipped with either six .50 caliber machine guns or four 20mm cannons, the -4 had more than adequate firepower to destroy any aircraft. It was the premier load carrying single engine fighter of the war. It could get airborne with bomb loads exceeding that of some twin engine medium bombers.
Advantage: F4U-4
Survivability: There was no other single engine fighter flown during the war that could absorb greater battle damage than the Corsair and still get home. Even the USAAF admitted that the F4U was a more rugged airframe than the tank-like P-47 Thunderbolt. That is a remarkable admission. The big Pratt & Whitney radial engine would continue to run and make power despite have one or more cylinders shot off. The P-51D, on the other hand, could be brought down by a single rifle bullet anywhere in the cooling system.
Advantage: F4U-4
Useful range: The F4U-4 had roughly the same radius of action as the Republic P-47D-25-RE, which flew escort missions deep into Germany as far as Berlin (the P-47D-25-RE had 100 gallons of additional internal fuel capacity). Yet, the P-51D still maintained a big edge in endurance.
Advantage: P-51D
Ease of flight: Despite gaining the nickname of "Ensign Eliminator", the F4U series tendency to roll under torque was no more difficult to handle than any other high powered fighter of the era. Some who have flown both the Corsair and the Mustang state without hesitation that the P-51 exhibited a greater propensity to roll on its back than did the F4U. Moreover, the Corsair was a far more forgiving aircraft when entering a stall. Although it would drop its right wing abruptly, the aircraft gave plenty of advanced warning of an impending stall by entering a pronounced buffeting about 6-7 mph before the wing dropped. The P-51, however, gave no warning of an impending stall. When it did stall, it was with a total loss of pilot control, rolling inverted with a severe aileron snatch. Recovery usually used up 500 ft or more of altitude. It was not uncommon for Mustangs to spin out of tight turns during dogfights. The F4U could also be flown at speeds more than 30 mph slower than that at which the Mustang stalled. In other words, the P-51 could not hope to follow a Corsair in a low speed turning fight.
Advantage: F4U-4
Outward Visibility: The Corsair provided for very good visibility from the cockpit. However, few if any WWII fighters offered the pilot a better view than the P-51D. The earlier P-51B was inferior to the F4U. Nonetheless, it was the D model that made up the bulk of Mustang production.
Advantage: P-51D
Finally there is an area in which the P-51 cannot compete at all. The F4U was designed to operate from an aircraft carrier. What this provides for is a utility that is unmatched by the better land based fighters of WWII. The ability to operate at sea or from shore can never be over-valued.
Obvious advantage: F4U-4
In conclusion, it would be hard, no, impossible to dismiss the F4U-4 as the leading candidate for the "best fighter/bomber of WWII". Furthermore, there is strong evidence that it very well may be the best piston engine fighter (to see combat) period. Certainly, everyone can agree on this: The F4U-4 Corsair was at the pinnacle of WWII piston engine technology and performance. When people debate the relative merits of the great fighter aircraft of WWII, they would be remiss in not acknowledging the F4U-4 as one of the very best, and in the educated opinion of many, "the best" fighter aircraft to fly into combat in World War II.
whels