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Offline Sandman

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« on: May 20, 2002, 11:19:16 AM »
Here's an interesting article on why you may not want to consider purchasing X-Box.

http://red-mercury.com/mmceo/mmceo_current.html

I haven't bought a console in years and the last one was a Nintendo 64, that my son still beats on. Were I to buy one today, it would probably be the PS2.
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Offline JoeDirt

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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2002, 11:45:07 AM »
these people are biased. dont bother reading it.

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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2002, 11:50:28 AM »
Interesting read

I used to work for a local Electronics Boutique and got to know the inner workings of Sony/Nintendo pretty well.  They would send representatives up, brief us as to what was up and coming, etc.  They really did a nice job of making us feel like we were part of the "team".  Both Sony and Nintendo left the employees with lots of free t shirts and other gizmos.  Great advertising for them, and it made us all feel like we had the *inside scoop*.

Sony went one further and gave each store a demo unit, and the manager let a different employee take it home for a month.  We had a policy at EB where employees could take games home and try them out (ahem, or visit the happy CDR equipped PC...hehe).

I've always been torn between Nintendo and Sony.  No doubt, as an adult, Sony had the better games.  But boy, do I hate "Loading...".  The N64s were an easier sell for folks who had toddlers/young kids.  Mario, Yoshi and the sort appealed to kids that age.  I had a N64 at home and loves the Flight game and the Zelda stuff.  Cartridge meant no waiting for CDs to load...but also limited the machine to games that fit on a cartridge.

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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2002, 11:54:22 AM »
One little issue Sandman.  Check out the MS license for developers/licensees that want to sell/develop for the X-Box.

MS gets from 60% to 75% of the gross revenue of the game sale.

Personally, I think MS has bitten off more than even they can chew.  Sony is not a little overnight corporaton.

Also, the nice things about the X-Box are also the bad things about the X-Box.  They give you an Internet connection port, but just how can you play any games over the Internet that are not FPS type games?  Ever tried to fly a plane with the controls they have?  Ever want to talk to a player online?  Hard to do with no keyboard.
The only positive aspect of the Internet connection works in conjunction with the HD they have.  It does allow games to be updated, rather painlessly, but how many of the console developers actually update games?  When they do it is usually a new release.

MS has stated they want to own the console/gaming market, but I think they may have severly under-estimated Sony's committment and it certainly appears Sony has a better handle on the console market in terms of how to stay there for the long haul.
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2002, 12:58:03 PM »
Supposedly there is a keyboard coming for the XBox.

There had better be I guess, LucasArts announced they are porting Star Wars Galaxies to both the XBox and PS2.  Unless they will have separate servers for the console customers, it's going to be very hard for consolers to communicate with the PC players without a keyboard.

my guess is separate servers.  I know it's slightly off the original topic, but it's relevant to Skuzzy's musings.  (edit:  yes, separate servers for each platform, according to a post from the devs)

As for the article themselves...  I don't think Microsoft is in the X-Box for the profit in the short term.  Their goal is probably like every other goal they have.  Be the alpha dog in the pack, and then rake in the profits.
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2002, 01:14:39 PM »
My friend has a gamecube and we love the get 4 players and play Super Smash Bros. Melee. The GC has almost NO loading time...the thing is so FAST. And the graphics are very VERY well done. The GC is a VERY nice machine. I have yet to see the PS2, but I'm sure it will be just as good. Also for those you of you who don't know, the GC uses a Mini CD, nintendo no longer uses the cart.
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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2002, 01:32:43 PM »
All three consoles are at the same price here in Sweden, since i havnt invested in an DVD-player yet i see this as an great oppurtunity to get both an DVD-player and an console game at the price of one... Since GC aint got the DVD player im going with X-Box.

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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2002, 01:53:26 PM »
get the PS2, the PS2 is also a DVD playa
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2002, 02:02:57 PM »
I've played a little bit with the PS2. The load time is a little annoying compared to the cartridge systems, but it's not any worse than loading up a game on a PC.

I like the fact that PS2 will play PS1 games. I really like the fact that PS2 and PS1 controllers are one in the same.
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2002, 02:31:29 PM »
cc that Beef!  DVD is a big bonus for me.  XBox can also play DVDs but you must buy a separate device or something to 'enable' the thing to play the DVD.  

Its an interesting read no doubt, but I really coudl care less about who's winning the overall battle.  I'll buy the console that interests me (mainly for the software titles).  And the console can only do so much... for me, the PC will always remain #1 for its versatility.  :cool:
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2002, 02:47:12 PM »
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these people are biased. dont bother reading it.


Just wondering what the bias was?

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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2002, 02:53:33 PM »
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cc that Beef!  DVD is a big bonus for me.  XBox can also play DVDs but you must buy a separate device or something to 'enable' the thing to play the DVD.


It's a remote with an eye receiver which goes into one of the game controller ports

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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2002, 03:45:19 PM »
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Just wondering what the bias was?

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the xbox:rolleyes:

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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2002, 04:17:58 PM »
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the xbox:rolleyes:

The Xbox was the bias? How does that make any sense? I don't understand, are you saying that the writer/site is biased for the Xbox. Or are you saying that the Writer/site is biased AGAINST the Xbox? I serious here.

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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2002, 04:19:31 PM »
Uh? Let me start out by saying I have a Game Cube. My parents got it about a week after it came out. They got it for $160.:D Though that is because we go to military bases to shop. :p I love my little black box. It looks like Hal9000s kid. I hate sony I hate XBOX. Why, you ask. The XBOX over heats. The playstation is from sony.
   Just to give a hint on how rugged this little thing is I will give you some examples. 1.I dropped it on the hard wood floor from 5 feet. 2.I forgot to turn it off on a 5 day vacation, when we got back it was still on to my horror. I went over to it and turned the t.v. on and the paused screen from rogue squadron was still playing.


Thats I got this system and I love it.

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