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Offline scruu

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« Reply #90 on: December 19, 2001, 07:35:00 PM »
Chutes Should be 3 perk points.

I'd love to see fatty's eyes as he pulls the cord to find out he only had 2 perkies :)

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« Reply #91 on: December 19, 2001, 07:58:00 PM »
1:Agree
2 :Disagree
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« Reply #92 on: December 20, 2001, 09:58:00 AM »
"ALL those that agree that if we get more early planes the later versions should be perked?"

[sigh]

The perk system wasn't meant to move people into different airplanes.  It wasn't supposed to be a half-baked RPS.  It was meant for one thing and one thing only--to allow HTC to add certain "interesting" planes without having them dominate the arena.

The day the Spit or P-51D has 30% of all usage in the MA, perk 'em.   But don't perk them because they're better than your F4F or Me-110 or Hurricane.  The early-war planes are there for scenarios and possibly the CT.

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« Reply #93 on: December 20, 2001, 10:24:00 AM »
J_A_B I agree 100% on what you are saying but if that is the sole criterea then why were the f4u4,arado,tempest,ta152 and me262 perked?
they never got use in the "30%" you gave as the arena flood level did they?
I think somewhere along the line HTC decided to do the rarer aircraft that no one has flown in sims before(or were very uncommon types) and decided the perk system would reflect their rarity too.
If this is not the case then the perk of the F4u4 is even more of a puzzle

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« Reply #94 on: December 20, 2001, 10:51:00 AM »
They will ovbiously reach that level if un-perked, or they have some other unique reason for being perked.  There is no need to leave them unperked for a while to see.  Take the F4U-4 as an example:

The P-51D is already one of the most common planes in AH, usually accounting for roughly 10% of the kills in a tour.  That's enough usage where some people already feel this airplane needs to be perked.   Now compare it to the F4U-4.  The F4U-4 is better, often MUCH better, in every aspect.  If you left the F4U-4 unperked it would indeed see excessive usage.  So it's perked.

The Ta-152 is perked not because it would ever dominate the arena (it obviously wouldn't), but because at high altitudes it is untouchable.  In other words it ruins the balance of the arena.  There is nothing except a jet that can compete with it over 30K.  If there were other planes with such good performance up there, then there would be absolutely no need to perk the Ta-152.

The reason the planes like the P-51D, 109G-10, FW-190D-9, Spit IX, N1K2-J and LA7 don't need to be perked is because they balance each other out and don't dominate the arena.  None of these planes has a whopping advantage over the others and none of them sees excessive usage.

Perking these planes to make, say, a P-40 more viable would be using the perk system for something it isn't intended for.  That wouldn't be perking a plane because it doesn't fit in with the rest of the arena; it would be blanketly perking a group of planes to force people to fly different ones.   And that, IMO, is not what the perk system was designed for.

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« Reply #95 on: December 20, 2001, 11:23:00 AM »
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Originally posted by J_A_B:

Perking these planes to make, say, a P-40 more viable would be using the perk system for something it isn't intended for.  That wouldn't be perking a plane because it doesn't fit in with the rest of the arena; it would be blanketly perking a group of planes to force people to fly different ones.   And that, IMO, is not what the perk system was designed for.

J_A_B

   Don't forget, also, that these planes would have high enough ENY that people *would* fly them.  In X brand online flight sim, you'd occasionally see people in P-40s and F4Fs, just for the heck of it.  Getting a whole load of perks for a single kill would undoubtedly motivate people to fly them.

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« Reply #96 on: December 20, 2001, 06:34:00 PM »
<<<In other words it ruins the balance of the arena.>>>

<<<Perking these planes to make, say, a P-40 more viable would be using the perk system for something it isn't intended for.>>>


Make up your mind.  Do you want balance or don't you?