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Offline Sikboy

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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2003, 02:04:47 PM »
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Just look at all those stupid user interface patents being bandied around.


Would those fall under the umbrella of "design" patents?

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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2003, 02:06:27 PM »
Thankyou sikboy.

Software patent law is a grey area that needs clarification. In Europe they are trying to do that with an EC directive called the 'Patentability of Computer-implemented Inventions'. Currently, in Europe, patents are even excluded for the underlying principles, which was challenged by IBM a few years ago. The copyrighted code has always been excluded and that will not change anytime soon.

BTW, I had an interview for position as a trainee patent attorney last week - I researched this in case they asked me to demonstrate my interest in current IP issues.
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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2003, 02:12:26 PM »
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BTW, I had an interview for position as a trainee patent attorney last week.


My God man...what possessed you to seek that job? Patent law is the most horrible area of law there is...closely followed by tax law.

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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2003, 02:15:34 PM »
I have a physics degree and many years ago I did consider a career in law when deciding the science versus arts route.

Scientific innovation has always fascinated me and I like a challenge. :)

I doubt I'll get the position - it's been three years since I graduated and I have a non-legal, non-scientific management job. I thought I'd give it a shot all the same.
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2003, 02:25:44 PM »
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My God man...what possessed you to seek that job? Patent law is the most horrible area of law there is...closely followed by tax law.


I don't know about Europe, but there's a ****load of money in it here in the states.

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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2003, 02:27:12 PM »
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I doubt I'll get the position - it's been three years since I graduated and I have a non-legal, non-scientific management job.


It creeps me out that Dowding and I were seperated at birth :eek:

I don't suppose you spent any time in the Navy? lol.

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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2003, 02:29:20 PM »
Money isn't too great for the first year...

Trainees (no examinations passed)
£ 15,000 to £ 25,000 pa

Technical assistants (close to qualification)
£ 25,000 to £ 45,000 pa

Newly-qualified attorneys
£ 50,000 to £ 70,000 pa

Attorneys with 3 – 5 years' post-qualification experience
£ 65,000 to £ 90,000 pa

Head of IP Department (industry)
£ 90,000 to £150,000 pa

Partner in private practice
£ 90,000 to £300,000+

The exams are ultra-tough and take 5 years on average to complete - there are only 1800 qualified patent attorneys in the UK and 50% of them are over 50. I decided it would be a good time to try and get in.
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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2003, 02:30:50 PM »
lol Sik :D

No I'm only 24 years old - I was planning a career in the RAF until the epilepsy hit though.

How old are you and what's your degree in?
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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2003, 02:37:54 PM »
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I don't know about Europe, but there's a ****load of money in it here in the states.

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Yeah, its same here in Europe. Most money is in Patent law and tax law. Incidentally, those areas are the most dreadfully boring ones too...you'd have to be a real money slut to work with that I suppose.

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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2003, 03:32:01 PM »
iEN's stock reports this will explain all

If you look this over you will see that iEN has NO capital to work with, I'm suprised that their doors are still open.
no wonder they've resorted to lawsuits.
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« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2003, 04:15:57 PM »
Bill pretty much aluded to it last year in The iEN Stock and Financials Report from last summer.

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« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2003, 07:14:18 PM »
Normally I`d just LMAO - but given Mr. Stealey might as well be successful, I say "what an *******".

This is exactly the point that brought me to opposing software patents in the EU. I think I`m moving over and get a patent on beating the monkey (or however it`s best called), because I THOUGHT OF IT FIRST.

What an *******.

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« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2003, 08:37:35 PM »
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How old are you and what's your degree in?


30, Degree is in International Relations (think we went over this before once).

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« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2003, 10:04:42 PM »
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Bill pretty much aluded to it last year in The iEN Stock and Financials Report from last summer.
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Ha! Good find Deja.

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« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2003, 09:40:52 AM »
Thank you Roscoroo!