Author Topic: 190's for dUmMiEs.....?? (Read 743 times)

Kweassa · « **Reply #45 on:** May 24, 2002, 10:57:39 AM »

Ripley, I don't think the maneuver described by Sikboy is a 'warp-roll' which is abusing technical network problems. The maneuver he described, like he said, is a 'snap roll' which when a plane enters accelerated stall it violently spins into a certain direction with lightning speed. This is due to the accelerated stall totally ridding the lift out of one wing(in Sikboy's description, the left wing) so the lift of the opposite wing(right wing) flips the plane over to one side(left roll) faster than normal stick-input rolls.

I think Sikboy mistyped a word in the part "from the spits POV, you start a roll to the left, then freak out and flip to the left".. You start a roll to the right, not the left. The guy chasing the 190 would see it begin to roll right and nose up, and then suddenly just flip over to the opposite direction with incredible speed, and extend away to some obscure direction.

I do admit the way Sikboy described this was just asking to be misunderstood as 'stick-stirring'.

Kweassa · « **Reply #46 on:** May 24, 2002, 10:58:24 AM »

woops, guess my typing was a bit late

Sikboy · « **Reply #47 on:** May 24, 2002, 11:06:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Kweassa

I think Sikboy mistyped a word in the part "from the spits POV, you start a roll to the left, then freak out and flip to the left".. You start a roll to the right, not the left.

Oooops, nice catch!

-Sikboy

Montezuma · « **Reply #48 on:** May 24, 2002, 01:22:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Sikboy
If you stall in pretty much any right hand turn in the 190A8, you will likely flop over to the left. At least that's my experience. Using this as an evasive is simply forcing the stall with a quick change in attitude.

Try that stuff in a mustang or hog and you have good chance of taking a dirt nap.

Sikboy · « **Reply #49 on:** May 24, 2002, 01:32:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Montezuma

Try that stuff in a mustang or hog and you have good chance of taking a dirt nap.

That's why I didn't post it under "HaWGs aNd PonIEs foR DuMMieS" smartass

-Sikboy

thrila · « **Reply #50 on:** May 24, 2002, 01:33:24 PM »

My interpretation of stick stirring is when a planes nose is picthing in various directions, with 90/180 degree rolls meanwhile the plane continues to travel in a straight line. This makes it very hard to judge where the plane is going to provide lead for yer lead.

Didn't really see sikboy's post as warp flipflopping stuff myself. But i hate it when i see it so i just had to post about how much i hate it.

Montezuma · « **Reply #51 on:** May 25, 2002, 02:50:09 AM »

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Originally posted by Sikboy

That's why I didn't post it under "HaWGs aNd PonIEs foR DuMMieS" smartass

-Sikboy

OK Mr. Sensitive, please forgive me for stating that the 190 has very easy spin and stall recovery which is an advantage over some of the other energy fighters.

Seems the Aces High 190s have the same violent departure and easy stall recovery that the 190s AW had, thank goodness they can only do the fish flop here and not the AW spindweeb move also.

Wilbus · « **Reply #52 on:** May 25, 2002, 07:39:18 AM »

Easy stall and spin recovery yes, esay to turn, no, very violent and fast snap stall.

Anything that says they shouldn't be easy to recover?

Montezuma · « **Reply #53 on:** May 25, 2002, 02:19:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus
Easy stall and spin recovery yes, esay to turn, no, very violent and fast snap stall.

Never said it turned well near stall speed.

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Anything that says they shouldn't be easy to recover?

No, just an observation.
Unlike a certain LUFTWHINER in the N1K2 thread, I would post actual evidence before complaining that a flight model might be wrong.