New bomber pics... uh oh...

[Central]

Do i see bomber hitting the ends of runways, instead of intended targets???  Why hit 3 or 4 hangers when two ends of the runway would keep planes from upping.

just an observation.

comments - solutions? maybe ht is already anticipating this?

[Innominate]

Will craters interfere with planes?  I've never noticed it

What worries me is, Will bombers even be able to kill hangers now?  With spread like that, How are you supposed to get 2500lb's to land on a hanger?  Will jabos replace bombers for hitting bases, leaving bombers worthless except for strat targets?

[Beegerite]

Don't believe so BUT THEY SHOULD!
Beeg

Originally posted by Innominate
Will craters interfere with planes?  I've never noticed it

What worries me is, Will bombers even be able to kill hangers now?  With spread like that, How are you supposed to get 2500lb's to land on a hanger?  Will jabos replace bombers for hitting bases, leaving bombers worthless except for strat targets?

[MugZ]

If bombers are changed to represent the WW11 Reality
then obviously the rest of the Modeling will have to be also
At first it will be a fun novelty.  But in 2 months Most Bomber pilots in AH  will be sickened and either Start learning JABO or go to a different game all together.   Thats what i think might happen     < S >  MugZ............OUT

[cajun]

No actuelly I think bombers will be more effective against feilds, with 3 bombers in formation and random bomb drifts it they will completely whipe out a large area. but you won't be able to "Laser Pinpoint" the bombs like now, which was not how they did it in reality.  I'm really looking forward to the new bomber changes and cant wait to try em out!

[SOB]

Originally posted by Central
Do i see bomber hitting the ends of runways, instead of intended targets???  Why hit 3 or 4 hangers when two ends of the runway would keep planes from upping.

just an pathetic little whine.

comments - solutions? maybe ht is already anticipating this?

Shut up Central.  Go and make more babies or somethin'.


SOB

[Fester']

How are you supposed to get 2500lb's to land on a hanger?

No offense, but these questions always amaze me.  

All the parameters you are talking about can be modified.  Which means HiTech can adjust the field setting to take roughly the same amount of damage from an equally skilled pilot in our current version, or he can make it easier, or harder, etc.

Im quite confidant that he can make a single 30 cal bullet destroy a hanger if he wanted to, or require 10000 pounds of ordinance  to destroy it... It's good to be the King...

The point is that HiTech will look at play balance (IS looking at play balance now most likely) and will make these adjustments accordingly to reflect how he and his team feel play should be balanced in the arena.

Have faith, they've done a pretty damn good job so far.

[MugZ]

Originally posted by MugZ
If bombers are changed to represent the WW11 Reality
then obviously the rest of the Modeling will have to be also
At first it will be a fun novelty.  But in 2 months Most Bomber pilots in AH  will be sickened and either Start learning JABO or go to a different game all together.   Thats what i think might happen     < S >  MugZ............OUT

Repeat.    LOL

[2Late4U]

The real benifits of the new system are many and wonderful!   No longer will a lone enemy fighter be able to stop a bombing raid with a single kamakazi pass through a bomber.  No more will a fighter be able to destroy one gun, and make the bomber all but defensless.  Never again will I be able to take a JU-88 to 10-20k and pinpoint kill all the acks on a field and any flacks I see.  Gone are the days of the Jabo carrying more ord than a bomber, but here come the days when JABO is NEEDED for precision attack.....WAHHHOOOOO!!!!

[MugZ]

Originally posted by 2Late4U
The real benifits of the new system are many and wonderful!   No longer will a lone enemy fighter be able to stop a bombing raid with a single kamakazi pass through a bomber.  No more will a fighter be able to destroy one gun, and make the bomber all but defensless.  Never again will I be able to take a JU-88 to 10-20k and pinpoint kill all the acks on a field and any flacks I see.  Gone are the days of the Jabo carrying more ord than a bomber, but here come the days when JABO is NEEDED for precision attack.....WAHHHOOOOO!!!!

True enough.  But with the Formation Broken. Or 2 of the 3 in the formation destroyed.  The last Bomber left  might as well Auger.   With Bomb accuracy impeaded,  the drop will probably be ineffective.

[Swoop]

Originally posted by Fester


The point is that HiTech will look at play balance (IS looking at play balance now most likely) and will make these adjustments accordingly to reflect how he and his team feel play should be balanced in the arena.

Have faith, they've done a pretty damn good job so far.

Fester is absolutely spot on.  


It's just HT doesnt generally tell us what he's planning, nothing wrong with that, so some people assume he hasnt thought about it and feel the urge to point it out.  Nothin wrong with that either.  It's how you point it out that either makes it a whine or an intelligent suggestion.


Swoop

[MugZ]

Swoop.  
 So which of the replies  would you consider a Whine?
Im simply pointing out the fact that i know 18 Pilots in AH  that ONLY  fly Bombers.  i truely belive Most of them will not like the new sys.  .  And they will leave.
 Up intill Pyro's latest News most of them were looking forward to the new Bomber sys.  But with the bombsite operation discribed and the over all bomber formation sys. explained.  I have many E-Mails of Negitive response.    Hope it all works out.
Well........... I hope we can work out the details in short order after the new sys, is implimented anyways.
Here is the bottom line.  Buff pilots dont care if they fly 40 bombers or 1.  as long as the results are the same if they manage to get to target.  

[Flossy]

Originally posted by MugZ
Im simply pointing out the fact that i know 18 Pilots in AH  that ONLY  fly Bombers.  i truely belive Most of them will not like the new sys.  .  And they will leave.

Oh dear, Mugz, what a black picture you paint!  Only 18 pilots who only fly bombers?  I thought there were a lot more than that!  As one of them, I am looking forward to this development.  If I don't like it, where am I going to go?  No way will I go to Warbirds and definitely not Fighter Aces.... so what's left?  I love AH anyway, and it would take a lot more than that to put me off flying here! I am willing to at least give the new system a try, and I am sure most other bomber pilots will feel the same way.

Up intill Pyro's latest News most of them were looking forward to the new Bomber sys.  But with the bombsite operation discribed and the over all bomber formation sys. explained.  I have many E-Mails of Negitive response.

Now that to me is the most challenging aspect I am looking forward to!  This has been one part of bombing which I have always found to be extremely easy, even from high altitude, and when I first came to AH, I thought at first that it was going to be a little more complicated here; but I soon found that once I got used to the slightly different way of looking through the bombsight it was pretty much the same as I was used to.  This new method sounds really interesting and exciting, and I am really looking forward to trying it and getting used to it.  No doubt I will be a dismal failure to start with, but I hope that in time I will gain more experience and become more skilled at hitting the targets.  I will certainly get more satisfaction from a successful drop if I know it is more through skill rather than good luck....  

[MugZ]

I say.  I  personaly Know 18 very well.  They fly bombers ONLY. They cant and wont fly fighters. LOL

So they are very dedicated bomber pilots.

[Revvin]

Myself and my squad look forward to the new changes. I've flown bombers in online sims for years starting about 6 years ago in Warbirds and always wished for an update to the bomber systems to make them more realistic. I relish the challenge of learning the new bomber systems and using them to their full potential. We have to trust HTC to weigh up all the options and make the changes to the way targets are destroyed and the way the bombers will work to make it as realistic as possible. I think its a little over the top to try and say that the last remaining bomber of the flight may as well auger if the other drones die because that bomber will still have ordnance to do some damage if he takes the time to line up and calibrate properly.

Lets see how this turns out, give the new systems some time and see if anything needs tweaking one way or another but at the moment its pointless specualtion. I believe anyone serious about bombing will relish the new changes as much as I do and will not leave. Where would they go? Warbirds? Fighter Ace? those sims still use the same arcade like bombsight system, if you're truly serious about bombing then Aces High v1.10 will be the place to do it.