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Offline Beefcake

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Is the ship that leads the TG a Battleship or a Crusier?
« on: May 26, 2002, 06:58:53 PM »
For a little backeground info, a knight player by the name of Zeroping and myself have had a long standing argurment over what class that ship is that leads the TG. He keeps saying its a "BS", BS being his term for Battleship....even though I keep saying battleships were classed as "BB"s not "BS". Anyway he keeps saying that it's a Battleship....I keep saying it's a crusier. However these last weeks I have begun to think I am wrong.  
So...is the ship that leads the TGs a Battleship or a Crusier?  I always thought it was a Baltimore class CA. Am I wrong?
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2002, 07:07:17 PM »
Cruiser.

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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2002, 07:11:37 PM »
Its a cruiser. Notice the gun caliber of the main guns.

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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2002, 07:15:41 PM »
It is a US Heavy Cruiser. 8" guns.

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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2002, 07:26:32 PM »
Here is USS Boston, Baltimore class heavy cruiser.

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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2002, 11:10:02 PM »
Yes, as many above has said, it's a Baltimore class heavy cruiser (CA).  Probablity the finest Heavy Cruiser ever designed.  I'll go out on a limb and say that none was ever lost in combat.  They stayed in service with the USN for may years after WWII.  They were also the first ships in the USN to be converted to Missile Defense.  I think the rocket was called the Tartar.
    Finally, as a touch of class, all Baltimore's had Teak wood decks :)

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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2002, 11:58:30 PM »
Really? I always thought it was a battleship too...

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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2002, 12:46:31 AM »
Well you take one then.. Ill take Des Moines.
And very few major US units commisioned in late 43 or later where lost in the war.  Did Baltimores ever participate in a surface action?

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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2002, 01:36:15 AM »
Indianapolis was lost to a sub. I believe CA's were in the Phillipine Sea fight against Japanese heavy fleet units.
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2002, 01:40:06 AM »
Indianapolis was an NC class battleship....wasn't it?
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2002, 02:37:28 AM »
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Indianapolis was an NC class battleship....wasn't it?


You're thinking of the Indiana, which was a South Dakota class BB. BTW, the Indianapolis was a Heavy Cruiser (CA), but not a Baltimore class. She predates WWII.

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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2002, 02:56:04 AM »
I stand corected.
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2002, 04:06:50 AM »
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Yes, as many above has said, it's a Baltimore class heavy cruiser (CA).  Probablity the finest Heavy Cruiser ever designed.  I'll go out on a limb and say that none was ever lost in combat.  They stayed in service with the USN for may years after WWII.  They were also the first ships in the USN to be converted to Missile Defense.  I think the rocket was called the Tartar.
    Finally, as a touch of class, all Baltimore's had Teak wood decks :)


The missle system your thinking of was called Talos. Tartars were deployed later and were initally only used on DDG's and FFG's. They have since evolved into the Standard family we have today on all SAM equiped surface combatants. There was a third SAM family way back in the 50's and 60's, It was the Terrier. Terrier was mostly deployed on new build DDG's and CG's.

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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2002, 05:32:43 AM »
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Indianapolis was an NC class battleship....wasn't it?

Cruisers are named after cities and battle wagons are named after states.

It would be an unusual (not unheard of mind you) for a battle ship to be part of a task force.

BTW, the projectiles for the New Jersey's guns weighed over a ton (2200 pounds is the figure I remember.)  When the gun was fired, you could watch the projectile move through the air.  When they were gettting ready to take the NJ to Vietnam, they sunk a small island as target practice. :)

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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2002, 05:58:21 AM »
Well you americans seem to build pretty crappy cruisers and cv's if 2 strafe runs from a 110 will sink both of them.

Must be ze german zuper 30mm that penetrates 6 inches of steel.
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