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Performance figures of Fw 190A-9 ?
« on: May 27, 2002, 05:14:53 AM »
Anyone, please ?

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Performance figures of Fw 190A-9 ?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2002, 09:56:46 AM »
This is what I have:

Fw 190 A-9
# Built: 400
Speed: 408 MPH
Horsepower: 1,700
Engine: BMW 801 TS
Climb: 2,350 FPM
Cealing: 37,400 FT
Range: 560 Miles
Empty Weight: 7,055
Loaded Weight: 8,470
Crew: 1
Engine: 1

Fw190A-9

Next and last production series of the A version aircraft was the Fw 190A-9. Previously, it was thought this plane would have been powered by a 1765 kW (2400 hp) BMW 801 F engine. But the BMW factory had not started production of these engines in time and, as a replacement, the 1470 kW (2000 hp) BMW 801 S engine was used with a more efficient, 14 blade fan. These engines were delivered as a power unit BMW 801 TS because of their need for a more efficient radiator and bigger oil tank mounted side by side. Both were in the form of a ring ahead of the engine under an armor cover with thickness increased from 6 to 10 mm. Large area, three bladed wooden propeller with constant speed mechanism should have been used as a standard, but for unknown reasons the majority of the A-9 planes (as opposed to F-9) had the metal VDM 9-12176 A propellers, as used in the previous version. One difference in the airframe between A-9 and A-8 model was a larger cockpit canopy, adapted from the Fw 190F-8 version. A few planes got tail sections with an enlarged tail as provided for Ta 152 fighters. Armament and Rustsatz kits were the same as in the A-8 version, but in many cases, on the pilot's request external part of the wing mounted MG 151/20 E cannons were removed.

Production of the plane started in the end of autumn 1944 and continued parallel to A-8 version. Monthly output depended on limited deliveries of BMW 801 TS engines. Also developed was a project for a highly modified Fw 190A-10 fighter powered by a BMW 801 F engine, but it was not completed because of the end of the war.
 


And yes, these did fly. Here is a Fw190 A-9 Of II./Jg300
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Performance figures of Fw 190A-9 ?
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2002, 10:00:10 AM »
Whops, forgot pic

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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2002, 11:16:04 AM »
I think this is what you wanted Hristo

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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2002, 11:17:45 AM »
Second part:

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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2002, 12:51:42 PM »
Heinkel:
1 - These figures are from a known wargame.
2 - A9 had a bubble canopy same as F8, some of them had the tail section of Ta152. Your picture may be from a modiffied A8 or even real F8 instead of an A9. The only way to identify a picture as an A9 is if it has bubble canopy and Ta152 tail.

In any case, from where did you get the numbers (400 built) ?
« Last Edit: May 27, 2002, 12:55:45 PM by MANDOBLE »

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Performance figures of Fw 190A-9 ?
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2002, 01:03:30 PM »
There's some data in this thread if you haven't already seen it.
http://pub73.ezboard.com/fluftwaffeexperten71774frm9.showMessage?topicID=15.topic

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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2002, 01:12:23 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Nashwan
There's some data in this thread if you haven't already seen it.
http://pub73.ezboard.com/fluftwaffeexperten71774frm9.showMessage?topicID=15.topic


Very interesting discussion, mainly the performance of the 190A8 achieving 2100Hp using 1.65 a.t.a.

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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2002, 01:53:58 PM »
MANDOBLE, here is the site i got the 400 figure from

Planes of WW2

This is a very accurate and reliable source.

As for the figures i posted above, they are correct, because they are Similar to the figures of the Fw190 A-8, and the A-9 and the A-8 are very similar.

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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2002, 02:13:48 PM »
Heinkel, your effort is really appreciated, but your last link is 100% unreliable, look at the performance figures for any 190 variant, all are the same plane.

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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2002, 02:56:05 PM »
What you are looking at, is the 190's with the 1700 HP Engine, so yes, they will all be similar in climb rate. Keep in mind these were all tested with the Same gun package, and had similar options. Since all the 190's frames were similar, and since all the 190's had the same options, the reults were similar.  These figures were all taken from books (some of which I have) and from the books, and internet sources, they seem accurate.

The info on this page was taken straight from books written by people who are LW piolts, or Know LW piolts. I have compared the info on this page, to other sources, and it is correct.
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2002, 03:09:39 PM »
Here:

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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2002, 03:10:14 PM »
and here:

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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2002, 03:10:53 PM »
Notice, that both the 190F-8 and the 190A-8 have the same top speed of 408 MPH, which confirms the data on that webpage.

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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2002, 03:14:03 PM »
The A-5 also has a top speed of abut 408 MPH. It's more like 412 from the diagram on the AH site, beacuse the AH Top speed is with 2x20mm 151, and 2x20 mm MGFF, while the top speed on that site, is with 4xMg151