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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2002, 05:10:16 AM »
Perhaps not a huge problem, but surely you could recognize that it will happen.  Since each respective country of the alliance wouldn't be able to take off from the other's fields, there would often be a two sided front, but that doesn't mean that the country with numbers will be at both fronts in force.  No doubt you've experienced the huge push on one front by a country while their other front is getting mowed over with little resistance.  I like to call this the "Bishop Principle" :D, but I'm sure it happens in other countries too.


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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2002, 06:22:22 AM »
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that there are more 2x bishops with 100 players


You continually generalize based solely on the times YOU fly.

I'm sorry that YOU always find this situation.

However, please realize that in the 24 hour cycle it is NOT always the same as YOU apparently find it.

But feel free to continue to distress yourself with dark imaginings. BTW, did you hear that EVERYONE is QUITTING when 1.10 comes out because we all know exactly how the buffs are going to work and it's just not going to work out? We KNOW this.

So, enjoy. We're down to the very few very last days of AH. The END is NEAR!

Guess we should all repent, eh?


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BTW, how's your BBS campaign to get folks to switch out of Bishland going? It's a unique approach you're taking..... does it work you think?
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2002, 11:44:40 AM »
Toad I think it played a part with knight squads moving to rooks. It seems that bish players do not want to balance the sides so the moves didn't help at all.

So I'm left with the conclusion that the game won't fix itself by players own initiative, either something forced happens or I'll gravitate out of the game eventually.

I'm tired of logging on just to see bish milkrun bases 50 vs 18. I can go and kill 8 of them in a succesfull sortie, but then I have to rtb and they capture the field (which is left undefended) anyway. What's the point to play anymore?
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2002, 07:32:50 PM »
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What's the point to play anymore?


There ya go!

When you talk it through on the BBS, your true desire is revealed unto yourself!

Glad we could all be of service in helping you find your way.

Good luck to you sir!
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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2002, 11:54:36 PM »
Ta hell with Fatty & Funked, Toad.  Give the Wit of the Week award to yourself.  :D


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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2002, 04:30:40 AM »
So Toad you think that by having your bishop gangbanging sessions long enough and driving most of the other country's players away from the game you'll have more fun?

I doubt it. The playerbase will get smaller and the arena will be even more imbalanced since all bish are so 'country loyal.'

I don't WANT to leave this game. But you and your friends retarded idea of gameplay may well force me to - alongside with many knights and rooks who may have or will leave because of this.

At least I'll be in Greece for the july, I'll reconsider after that.
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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2002, 05:00:05 AM »
Tell ya what Ripley, make up a list of Bishop squads and players.  You can decide how many players need to transfer out, and send out assignments to everyone indicating which countries they should be transferring to.  Put me at the top of your list, I'll go fly for a month in whatever country you choose.


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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2002, 05:02:57 AM »
That's a very gallant offer SOB.

I prefer to see what HT had in mind with correcting the balance.
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2002, 07:34:31 AM »
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So Toad you think that by having your bishop gangbanging


Here's the part you still don't get:

When I play the Bish are often outnumbered and in the process of being reset.

Read that again.

Now read that again.

So YOUR problem is also MY problem. In fact I'll wager just about everyone playing the game experiences this problem to some degree on a routine basis.

Now what's the difference between you and me?

Well, one of us is having a life crisis snit over an online computer game.

The other one is enjoying the heck out of life.

Maybe this just isn't for you. Maybe the "gaminess" of three continually unbalanced sides is too much for you.

You know what you want to do to show the rest of us dumb bassards how you feel and make us all sorry we weren't nicer to you and stuff.

Go ahead, pull the trigger.  :D

Here's a new's flash just in for you though. The game isn't LOSING players, it's GAINING players. It'll gain a bunch more with 1.10 I'll wager.

The Bish/Rook/Knight numbers thing has been going on since day one.. with the concomitent crying.... the game still grew month by month.

I'm sure HTC is aware of all these rivers of tears and is monitoring the situation. I'll even wager THEY know how many resets have been won by each side in each tour (unlike YOU or ME or anyone else here) and I bet they can quickly graph country numbers hour by hour in the arena. So, if it TRULY needs fixing, I'm sure they'll act. However, if it's merely a problem of totally incorrect perceptions on the part of a few players, I doubt they'll mess with a very successful game formula.

So if you want to make a big statement and show your discontent.. go ahead. I think AH will survive despite the incredible loss. I'm sure some other nattering nabob of negativity will man his keyboard to soften the blow. :rolleyes:

Because the vast majority of people playing realize what an absolute blast this is.. outnumbered or not........ and also what an incredible entertainment value it is at roughly 50 cents a day.

Oh, btw...... you can feel OK about leaving because I signed up a friend at the airshow yesterday. He'll be joining shortly as a paying customer. So, you've already been replaced. In your honor though, I'll have him fly as a BISHOP!

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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2002, 07:37:57 AM »
Toad you yourself have missed the several posts where I've over and over stated that I'm talking about euro timezone and I don't give a cornered rats bellybutton about what happens when I'm at sleep. Like you don't seem to care.

So in that sense your attack was way off.

Now what's the difference between you and me?

Well, one of us is having a life crisis snit over an online computer game.

The other one is enjoying the heck out of life.


Heh, you're the one confusing life with a computer game it seems. I'm posting here because I'd like to get a better value for the few hours I and other knights/rooks pay and spend on this game in eurozone let this be stressed in case you missed my previous text again.

Out of curiosity, what kind of numbers are you bish facing on your timezone? Are you daily facing 2:1 numbers or worse? I've played almost all night on some occasions and I haven't witnessed a huge rook / knight advantage lately. A few months ago the situation seemed really unbalanced on US prime time though.

You see, Toad, even though it may seem I'm attacking bishops in general but in reality I'm trying to make people realise that the problem you also seem to be facing needs to be looked after. Or do you really enjoy logging daily to see your virtual country in virtual trouble with huge streams of virtual enemy flocking to capture virtually undefended virtual fields?

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« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2002, 07:59:53 AM »
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... I've over and over stated that I'm talking about euro timezone and I don't give a cornered rats bellybutton about what happens when I'm at sleep. Like you don't seem to care.


Yet your on the BBS continually crying that "it just isn't fair" and people should switch sides just to solve a Euro timzone problem? :rolleyes:

..... and I'm not attacking you. I'm disagreeing with you over the nature of the problem. Lots of folks seem to take disagreement as a personal attack though. Interestingly it seems to me to be the ones that basically aren't happy here because things aren't just they way they want them to be.

Additionally, I'm suggesting that if a silly little computer game that costs 50 cents a month is causing you such distress you should perhaps consider doing something else for entertainment. After all, entertainment shouldn't RAISE your irritation level, it should lower it. If AH were causing me continual irritiation I'd drop out right away. It wouldn't be prudent to pay to irritate yourself, would it?

I play US evenings. Most nights the numbers are reasonably balanced. Of course, my definition of reasonably balanced is probably different than yours. Usually no one side is more than 30-40% greater than another.  However, I've also been on when the Rooks had 2X the Bish or the Knights and when the reverse was also true.

The last two nights I got to play the Bish were down to about 5-6 fields when I logged in and the downhill slide continued. Usually, when one country gets down, the other two both try to finish the job. So, I fought defensively against bad odds both nights... and got my butt shot off a lot. :D  This happened even though the numbers weren't extremely[/b] out of balance. Of course, as the onslaught continued some Bish logged out of frustration and it got more lopsisded.

I, however, had a great time. Had some truly great fights, including one against Alaskn in his La-7 against my 205.

So, bottom line is that just about every player experiences the fight against overwhelming odds routinely. Some more than others. Not everyone has a life crisis over it, however.
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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2002, 08:11:19 AM »
Toad you should have realised something in your post..

You seem to be able to mostly play with reasonable odds, 20-30% differences are not bad at all..

While on the other hand I would also like to play on similar circumstances because I really like this game and would also like to have fun with it.

Now because the situation has been constantly lopsided, it's difficult to get that fun out of it like it has been. It's still fun but not like it used to.

What you're saying really is 'too bad dude, this game sucks for you at that time and you should just quit playing.'

What I'm saying is there is a problem on euro time and I'd personally like to see if anything can be done about it. Maybe it will go away on its own, afterall summer is here and many people stop playing with better things to do.

Like I said, I'll be a full month completely without computer, on the beach bar drinking cold beverages and checking out topless girls on the beach and once I return from there (regretfully I have to.. :) ) I hope things will have changed on our zone also.

I'm not accusing you Toad personally or other bishs that aren't involved in this.

As you have seen this thread was not started by me and signs are there are more and more players who agree with me on this.
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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2002, 11:47:25 AM »
bishops were being slaughtered by knights last night and we had superior #s so we need those numbers to keep it even it's only when we feel like getting organized that we're a threat otherwise we just plain suck. there's no cooperation no 6 calls no help when a mission is at a base everyone goes and does their own thing instead of looking at the bigger picture and staying close to the field helping countrymen/women get airborne safely. i tell ya it's utter chaos in bishland most times. :D

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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2002, 02:51:52 PM »
hehe  utter chaos in biscuit land , thats funny :) we need to see more of that !!!

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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2002, 08:18:21 PM »
Is this what a hijacking looks like?