SHoulder fired missles

[BGBMAW]

ok so the US gov..gives warning to Airlines for possible attak w/ missles...

How are they supposed to defend against SA-7's and Stingers????



BGBAMW1st Marine Air Wing

[Sandman]

Easiest way is to just stay high.

But... they're going to have to come down to land.

So there are some new technologies in development...

LAIRCM is one example.

Also, you can read up on EO/IR countermeasures at

Journal of Electronic Defense Online (registration is required).

JEDOnline also has an article on
Protecting the Big Boys

[Curval]

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Also, you can read up on EO/IR countermeasures at
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Oh great...I'd love to be on the plane in which the pilot has to perform radical evasive manouvers while pumping chaff and flares out of their dispensers.  

"Ladies and Gentlemen, please fasten your seatbealts....and tighten your sphincters."

[KG45]

ain't it iran-ic when weapons we've handed out like lolipops all over the world come back to bite us on the ass? rayguns CIA gave hundreds of stingers to the mujahadeen in, um, afganeestan in the 80's.

can anyone say 'blowback'?

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by KG45
ain't it iran-ic when weapons we've handed out like lolipops all over the world come back to bite us on the ass? rayguns CIA gave hundreds of stingers to the mujahadeen in, um, afganeestan in the 80's.

can anyone say 'blowback'?

It's true that small arms proliferation has not had the same press as weapons of mass destruction. The UN has started taking steps towards small arms, but so long as the big 5 can veto any measures of the security council it is unlikely that things will change. Speaking of Iran, Thanks France, for selling them the Exocet Missiles used to Attack the USS Stark in 1987.  Or thanks Russia, for setting up the Serb Air Defense network. Lets not pretend that the US is the only horse at the trough here.

As far as Stinger missiles go... I really wonder how many they have left? I ride the Train into the Pentagon Metro station every morning, and I've often wondered if those guys fishing under the bridge might ever be after something a little bigger. The flight path to National Airport goes right over the Potomac, and the planes get nice and low just as the come over the bridges. It's a sobering thought that's for sure.

-Sikboy

[Nashwan]

Speaking of Iran, Thanks France, for selling them the Exocet Missiles used to Attack the USS Stark in 1987.

The Stark was struck by Iraqi missiles.

[Curval]

Originally posted by Nashwan

The Stark was struck by Iraqi missiles.

......don't know the origins of the Stark missiles, but what about the Exocets used in the Falklands against the British?

[Eagler]

Gov is just going done the list of all possible threats in a major CYA move. Seems we get a warning every 48 hrs. But if they didn't warn us, the dems would jump all over them within the week after the next attack for not.

"What did Bush Know and When did he KNow IT!"

On the flip side, guess they forgot the childhood story about the boy who cried wolf ....

Like anyone can do anything about S to A missiles fired at landing/takin off airliners... besides puttin ur head btwn ur knees & kiss your arse goodbye if you see the contrail headin ur way..

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Nashwan

The Stark was struck by Iraqi missiles.

You are absolutly right. I stand corrected.

Curval, the missiles and aircraft were French in Origin, Nashwan is pointing out that they were fired by the Iraqi's, not the Iranians.

-Sikboy

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Curval


Oh great...I'd love to be on the plane in which the pilot has to perform radical evasive manouvers while pumping chaff and flares out of their dispensers.  

"Ladies and Gentlemen, please fasten your seatbealts....and tighten your sphincters."

The idea is to avoid maneuvering at all...

Read up on systems like TADIRCM.

The Navy-led flight tests took place at Patuxent River Naval Air Station, MD, June 14 to 23. Two TADIRCM subsystems - a two-color IR Missile Warning System (MWS) and Sanders' "Agile Eye" Micro-Jam Head - were mounted on the belly of a P-3 Orion test aircraft. During multiple tests, the P-3 flew by the ground-based target at an altitude of 1500 feet and at distances varying from one to four kilometers. With high reliability, the IR Missile Warning System detected and identified the simulated threat, and provided target positioning data to the Agile Eye Micro-Jam Head. The jam head successfully acquired every target, enabling the laser to maintain energy on the target for the duration of each flyby.

[Curval]

"During multiple tests, the P-3 flew by the ground-based target at an altitude of 1500 feet and at distances varying from one to four kilometers. With high reliability, the IR Missile Warning System detected and identified the simulated threat, and provided target positioning data to the Agile Eye Micro-Jam Head. The jam head successfully acquired every target, enabling the laser to maintain energy on the target for the duration of each flyby."

EDITED....didn't read your link the first time.

[Curval]

Originally posted by Sikboy

Curval, the missiles and aircraft were French in Origin, Nashwan is pointing out that they were fired by the Iraqi's, not the Iranians.
-Sikboy

ahhhh

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Curval
"During multiple tests, the P-3 flew by the ground-based target at an altitude of 1500 feet and at distances varying from one to four kilometers. With high reliability, the IR Missile Warning System detected and identified the simulated threat, and provided target positioning data to the Agile Eye Micro-Jam Head. The jam head successfully acquired every target, enabling the laser to maintain energy on the target for the duration of each flyby."

Sorry, I didn't read the links 'cause I hate registering...but, what is quoted above merely tells me that the "detection" of an IR threat was sucess.  (Unless the Micro-Jam head is an actual jamming device that also sucessully accomplished the diversion of the missile threat.)

Try this article.

The November 19, 2001, test was the first time that a modern infrared air-to-air missile launched at a tactical fighter has been defeated by an on-board laser-based directional infrared countermeasures system. The test was conducted at the U.S. Naval Weapons Range at China Lake, California.

[Sandman]

But wait... there's more.

[senna]

Plz... Promise I wont shoot my eye out!