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Offline Toad

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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2001, 10:20:00 AM »
PERK  THE SPITS! ALL OF THEM!

no wait...

PERK THE La-7!

oops.. sorry...

PERK  THE P-51D!

jeez.... my mistake...


ah heck... getting time to sing again, isn't it?   :D


mi mi mi mi mi... hmmmmm

"Perk 'em all, Perk 'em all"

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Offline iceydee

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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2001, 10:23:00 AM »
The "invincible" D9 was me. Wasn't a D9
though (A5)... Never even noticed that
Niki, huh. Had enough business with you
guys. I was in fact running all I could
from a P38 (don't know who that was), and
if the niki wouldn't have HOed me, the P38
would have got me...   :mad:

I was quite surprised when you first got
to our field. You were flying in a formation
of 3 190's, and at much higher alt than I
was. Took you less than a minute to get me.
Difficult to evade 3 diving 190's...   :)

But hey, the new CT is on it's way. We won't
have to worry about such dweebery anymore.   ;)

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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2001, 10:27:00 AM »
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mandoble mandoble .....

result could be exactly same if that lame whitch cant BaZ were in spit.... if some cant aim, then doesnt matter if he fly D9 or  IX.....

they never let me get within gun range...   :rolleyes:

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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2001, 10:37:00 AM »
<S> Very well resumed Kieran.
It is very simple. What is more important in our MA? Kills per time or kills per death? We have an unlimited plane generator, so deaths are not as critical as delay between kills.
A typical example:
Pilot A - 100 flight hours, KD 6/1, 150 kills
Pilot B - 100 flight hours, KD 2/1, 500 kills

Pilot A personal score will be better, ok, but whitch one has had the biggest impact in the arena? Obviously, pilot B.

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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2001, 10:40:00 AM »
iceydee, neg, you werent that 190, but there was another one in a previous visit to A22. That 190 (probably you) was killed quickly, as a C205 and two spits, then we return to refuel and A22 put again some fighters near A21.

I'm refering to the second visit to A22 (we reloaded four times, the last one with only one 190A8). This time there was not any rook P38, only 3 rook 190A8 and several minutes later a single rook nikki flying low Hoing and killing the 190 and then being killed by the field ack.

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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2001, 11:16:00 AM »
I contend, what is more important in the MA is that folks have fun...wild concept eh?

 
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Pilot A personal score will be better, ok, but whitch one has had the biggest impact in the arena? Obviously, pilot B.

 


That logic is flawed. killing 3 enemy in 1 min, or killing 5 enemy in 20 minutes...the presence alone of enemy planes alive and a threat, will impact the arena. You dying in one minute and then leaving the fight to grab back to the fight has no impact at all.

What would have the most impact in the MA, would be if those who feel it constantly necessary to tell others how to participate in the sim, would take that same time and invest it in improving their skills. That would yield better fights rather than better dialogue.

 :)

 

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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2001, 11:24:00 AM »
"I was in fact running all I could
from a P38"

Typical waffleboy tactic. Horrido  :)

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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2001, 12:01:00 PM »
Hey, I think we've both made some points. Really, we just seem to view the D-9 results differently, even though we use the same data.

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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2001, 12:26:00 PM »
Any form of 190 may be flown aggressively with a great deal of success.  It needn't furball with the Spits, but it surely deserves to be flown better than simply grabbing alt and blowing through furballs looking for targets of opportunity.  Nath flies 109s and 190A8s very aggressively and manages respectable K/T scores every tour.

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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2001, 12:30:00 PM »
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Nath flies 109s and 190A8s very aggressively and manages respectable K/T scores every tour.

Flew, Nath flew the 109's and 190's well every tour...

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« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2001, 12:32:00 PM »
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Flew, Nath flew the 109's and 190's well every tour...

Nath's still around; he flew in Big Week.  He's on hiatus from AH while geekily obsessing over Dark Age of Camelot these days.

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« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2001, 01:24:00 PM »
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Nath's still around; he flew in Big Week.  He's on hiatus from AH while geekily obsessing over Dark Age of Camelot these days.

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I got to level 9 in Camelot and haven't logged in since.  Immensely boring game of leveling, IMO.  AH kicks Camelot's butt.   ;)
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« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2001, 01:33:00 PM »
I get that uneasy feeling when I see:

P-51s

Fw190s

Spits

Above me.

I also get that feeling when I see an La-7 anywhere.
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Offline iceydee

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« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2001, 01:45:00 PM »
ok maybe wasn't. Just sounded like it
with what you described. And I know you was
in the area Mandoble, since you killed me
when you first got there...   :mad:

I was trying to BnZ you guys for a while
from 20k. But it didn't take many dives
until you had me down low.   :(

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« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2001, 01:54:00 PM »
It sounds to me like MANDOBLE agrees with the early war Japanese assesment of what is valuable in fighter performance and disagrees with what the Germans and Americans thought was valuable.

This begs the question, why do you fly German aircraft, MANDOBLE?

It seems that Japanese aircraft are much better suited to your assesments of what makes a good fighter.
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