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Offline Citabria

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« on: June 03, 2002, 12:59:50 AM »
just a tad the way you tuffened up p38

this will give tbms weak guns a small chance at a defensive kill

currently tbm has same glass tail the p38 had
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2002, 05:23:30 AM »
or make the P38 a bit softer, so Citabria is not that shocked  about the normal endurance of the other planes :D

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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2002, 06:37:41 AM »
What we dont need is everyone petitioning HTC to change a plane to the way they want it, or think it should be.   This becomes a never ending cycle with all kinds of "special interest" groups constantly hammering HTC to change this plane or that to be:
1) Faster
2) More maneuverable
3) More damage resistant
4) More lethal guns

etc etc etc.

This was a big problem in WB, all the demands/requests for changes to make a plane what someone wanted, not necessarily what it should be.  Lets not start this cycle here in AH.

Nothing personal Cit, just saw it too many times in WB and it was sickening.

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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2002, 07:09:11 AM »
I agree, the TBM needs it horizontal stabilizer strengthened.

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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2002, 07:21:28 AM »
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Originally posted by Dago
What we dont need is everyone petitioning HTC to change a plane to the way they want it, or think it should be.   This becomes a never ending cycle with all kinds of "special interest" groups constantly hammering HTC to change this plane or that to be:
1) Faster
2) More maneuverable
3) More damage resistant
4) More lethal guns

etc etc etc.

This was a big problem in WB, all the demands/requests for changes to make a plane what someone wanted, not necessarily what it should be.  Lets not start this cycle here in AH.

Nothing personal Cit, just saw it too many times in WB and it was sickening.

dago


However, in this case Fester's absolutely correct. When we examine the historical record, we find that the TBF/TBM was one of the most durable single-engine aircraft of the war. Tougher than the F6F. As it stands, a single hit the to tail can cause its loss. It needs a little work.

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Offline MuadDib of Dune

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« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2002, 08:10:43 AM »
Guns lethality overall is a bit overdone from a gameplay perspective but hey! everyone wants insta-kills and its fun anyways so who cares.

:)

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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2002, 08:13:29 AM »
"What we dont need is everyone petitioning HTC to change a plane to the way they want it"

I agree, plane strength should be toughened based upon who is flying it.

So HT please, when I fly a plane give it a multipler of x10 to toughness. That way as I move from plane to plane, they are all tougher.

Thanks

And while you're at it re-do the damage model - but wait, you're already doing that in v1.10 - as you said in MA a few weeks ago.

never mind.

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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2002, 08:25:25 AM »
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However, in this case Fester's absolutely correct. When we examine the historical record, we find that the TBF/TBM was one of the most durable single-engine aircraft of the war. Tougher than the F6F. As it stands, a single hit the to tail can cause its loss. It needs a little work.

My regards,

Widewing


It was durable in the PTO ... facing Japanes planes

In the MA this plane can face the Typhoon and her 4 hiszooka ,)

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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2002, 09:10:31 AM »
The damage modelling is being redone???
 HT said so in the MA??

 When??  How??  

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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2002, 10:43:12 AM »
what Dago said.  I'll try and beat Hooligan to it... "Bring some facts"

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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2002, 10:48:17 AM »
5 out of 6 TBM's that I've killed lost thier tail.

Worth asking them to take another look anyway.

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Re: htc please tuffen up tbm
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2002, 11:19:26 AM »
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Originally posted by Citabria
just a tad the way you tuffened up p38

this will give tbms weak guns a small chance at a defensive kill

currently tbm has same glass tail the p38 had


I agree. BTW, I love using the TBM as a fighter. Likewise for the IL-2. No one expects to see an IL-2 roll in on their 6, and when one does, most simply try to out-turn it. Big mistake. :eek:

You can't stay engaged for long, as the lack of speed will eventually cost you. However, you can always face-shoot everything in sight. :D Believe me, not much face-shoots like those 23mm on the Stormovik, and not much pisses off the dweebs as much as being HO'd by a flying tank, that shrugs off hits like no other.

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« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2002, 11:36:40 AM »
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It was durable in the PTO ... facing Japanes planes

In the MA this plane can face the Typhoon and her 4 hiszooka ,)


Japanese aircraft rarely got near the TBMs. Its resistance to enemy triple A is well recognized. These monsters routinely returned from strikes after absorbing hits from large caliber anti-aircraft guns. A brief look at some of the battle damage reports from the various VT squadrons will leave one breathless. These were rugged birds, rarely going down unless the engine was hit.

I have lost several TBMs where the tail fell off from minor hits. Even lost the tail on an HO! Explain that one, somebody.

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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2002, 11:48:37 AM »
"I have lost several TBMs where the tail fell off from minor hits. Even lost the tail on an HO! Explain that one, somebody."

Easy. Bullet gets deflected by propellor, but then the TBM's magnetic field pulls it back in, hitting the rear of the plane and thus, snapping tail out. ;)

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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2002, 12:17:18 PM »
Tac,

You're also forgetting the terrellian effect from the warp coil which causes near supersonice armor percing bullets to enter hyper space momentarily, this allows them to pass through the fuselage with out causing damage. But since the hyper-space effect is only temporary, they exit hyperspace in the tail section, thus causing catostrophic damage as these two masses - tail and bullets - try to occupy the same space and time.