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Offline MrLars

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Missing Wingtip question
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2002, 07:34:02 PM »
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190's & LA7's fly fairly well on a missing wingtip if you keep it fast.Use Trim for level flight. Odds are 50/50 for a decent landing. Secret is to keep it fast as long as you can.


Depends on what wing is damaged. An La7 with the starboard wing tip clipped is a biatch to fly while if the port wing tip is gone you still have a good chance of landing.

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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2002, 09:29:40 PM »
I am quite certain that no aircraft ever has been produced that can fly with a whole wing missing.  Many planes can fly with a pretty good chunk of one gone but not the whole thing.  In here its pretty easy to bring most planes back with tip missing if you get control as soon as you realize what has happened.  Trim full aileron and rudder against the direction the plane is trying to roll and if you in a two engine plane, chop throttle on the engine that is on the good wing and go full power on the engine on the crippled wing.  Dropping the flaps may or may not be a good idea.  In some planes, dropping the flaps may give you enough lift on the bad wing, so that you can continue in controlled flight.  Other planes need to be kept fast so that the control authority on the good wing is enough to keep the plane level.  Find power, and trim settings that allow you reasonable control then look for the nearest field.  Avoid changing speed and sudden moves if possible.  Set a shallow glideslope for the field far out, and fly it right to the ground without cutting power from that setting.  Once the wheels are on the deck chop power completely and use differential braking and rudder to keep the nose pointed straight.  Its pretty easy in many planes in here, others are quite impossible.

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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2002, 10:09:51 PM »
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I am quite certain that no aircraft ever has been produced that can fly with a whole wing missing.  


as I said, I could be wrong here.  Old memories playing a role here for me.

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« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2002, 12:09:58 AM »
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I am quite certain that no aircraft ever has been produced that can fly with a whole wing missing.  Many planes can fly with a pretty good chunk of one gone but not the whole thing.


Wrong.  The F-15 can and HAS done it.  Combination of very good aileron effectiveness, backup hydraulic systems and a very high landing speed allowed at least one F-15 to RTB and land with one WHOLE wing missing after a mid air collision.

As for WWII era aircraft, that's a different story.

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« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2002, 12:38:01 AM »
Let us all remember that the visual of the "missing wingtip" is merely the display method for an unknown (to us) amount of damage computed by the damage model.

Or, what you see is not necessarily what you have as damage. We don't know the thresholds where parts of the visual model break off. Don't know if it's a finite value, a sliding scale, a weighted scale. Don't know a d*mn thing about how they do it, actually.

Don't think they're going to tell either.

Just a thought to keep in mind.
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« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2002, 01:35:22 AM »
a photo of the F-15 in BlueMako's post.

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« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2002, 01:42:11 AM »
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a photo of the F-15 in BlueMako's post.


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« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2002, 08:16:31 AM »
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Wrong.  The F-15 can and HAS done it.  Combination of very good aileron effectiveness, backup hydraulic systems and a very high landing speed allowed at least one F-15 to RTB and land with one WHOLE wing missing after a mid air collision.

As for WWII era aircraft, that's a different story.


And remember - jets have less torque than props.