Author Topic: It's Simple....Get Used To It!  (Read 944 times)

~Ice~

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« on: August 31, 2000, 08:27:00 AM »
I just want to set the record straight so that there will be no confusion regarding what I fly and how I choose to fly it.

I have flown multiplayer online flight sims for some eleven years....started in AWDOS....then WB's....now AH.

I have almost exclusively flown the P-51D...most likely 90% of that total time.

I ALWAYS seek the advantage in a fight....I do my best to stay hot at all times....If for any reason I do not feel that I have the upper hand, I regroup and re-engage.

I prefer the bounce due to how it makes my opponent feel....Big tough fighter pilot guy one minute....pretty sunset from the tower the next!

I will never change my MO....especially because someone calls me a runstang or tries to tell me how to fly my $30.00 a month.

I would like to apologise for my outburst last night regarding LLB and Kwan....after all these years, I just can't get over how some feel the need to tell others how to fly this sim.....I simply forgot how crappy the two of them must have felt to be killed and to watch their friends get sacked and then not be able to do anything about it other than to whine on channel one. Sorry guys....my oversight.

The 51 kills with inpunity as does the FW or the Spit or perhaps some others offered here that I have no seat time in.

If the Knifefight is your bag...so be it...just remember that when I come screamin down from the heavens at 400ias and bounce your highly skilled rear end, I'll be laughin all the way out of Dodge!

Im Out!

Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2000, 08:38:00 AM »
Heya Ice, AWDOS,and  CK/WB vet here too.  P51 is a sweet bird, hope you enjoy it!
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2000, 08:41:00 AM »
LLB complaining????

Get Used To It.    

Personally, I enjoy fighting from a disadvantage because of the way it makes the opponent feel.  Lot's of altitude and E one minute, pretty sunset in the tower the next minute.  

(Of course, when the other guy knows what he is doing, I often die like a dog.  Hehe.)

I (almost) never waste the energy to complain about the way another guy flies, unless I think it will goad him into a stoopid mistake.  However, I find the "only fight with clear advantage school" to be too boring for my $30.  But, to each his own....    

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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2000, 08:56:00 AM »
Hey Ice.

Gotta agree with ya; fight on your own premises and what you think is fun/worthwhile, not how someone else wants you to fight.

Two tours ago, I flew extremely conservative for a while. K/D of 14.0 for a bit, then I got bored.

Now I'm placed around 3.6, and the flying is a combination of some sorties carefully, some sorties no care at all  .

But, ya gotta admit, when you reverse and kill the kill is so much sweeter.

And some of my BEST sorties have been when I have not fired a single round, but constantly been on the defensive, dodging left and right and making it home.

Whatever rocks yer boat, bud  

But I am frustrated when people run - sure I am. YThen again, if the con had an e advantage, and disengages, I consider it a half victory. All depends on perspective. I'll ask the guy to turn back, but won't whine about it if I don't get an answer.

Maybe I'll taunt some, for the fun of it  



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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2000, 09:10:00 AM »
I'm with Ice on this one  

Only I fly the P47  

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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2000, 09:29:00 AM »
Agree with you 100% Ice, just don't shoot me!  

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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2000, 09:56:00 AM »
Ice,

"If your in a fair fight you didn't plan it properly"

Don't know who the author is but obviously a smart man.

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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2000, 10:10:00 AM »
I love people that complain about the way I killed them.  It cracks me up every time I hear it.

I pity the person that gets on private coms and tries to tell me how I should have engaged them.  They will be privy to some not-so-nice words.

I don't criticize the enemy for the way they fly.  Why should I?  I do notice what does and doesn't work.. and try to impliment it myself if I can.

So.. when I dive for ack... or when I turn to HO you as you are gaining on me 3k back... or as I bounce you while you are already engaged... or as I respawn 100 times... or as I straff you OTR... or as I launch AP rounds at your panzer as you respawn in the vh... or as I ignore you and go for the low c47/m3... or as I run from a fight... or whatever.  Sit back and say what you want.  Just don't try to tell me how to do it differently.

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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2000, 11:35:00 AM »
Call me crazy but I like to win engagements because I outflew and outshot my opponent, not because I climbed a lot more before engaging.  A trained chimp can do that.

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2000, 12:37:00 PM »
 If you can stay awake playing that way. More power to you.

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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2000, 03:29:00 PM »
Funked....

Its not about being higher....its about flying smarter...the 51 has its strengths...it rates a turn better than most other aircraft in the game if flown correctly. You seem to think that seeking the advantage means not engaging...my point is that if someone is in a spit and I dont have cornering velocity, well, I'm not going to offer myself for sacrifice just to make my opponent feel good

Easymo....

I'de rather stay awake than be a fixture on someones text buffer....put simply, dyin jus for kicks is not a good thing in my book....ever

Im Out!

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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2000, 04:05:00 PM »
 I like the nik and P47 here. and the ki84 in WB, because they BnZ, and if need be, can turn fight with the best of them. I would guess it suits my nature.

 I have flown some sorti,s the way you describe above. Its just to easy to get kills and go home. IMHO its just another form of vulching. For me it got boering quick. However its your game also. And I  say play it any way you want.

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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2000, 04:10:00 PM »
I agree with about everything you say ICE.

If you fly the 51, you need to fly it smart. It isnt the first choice for turnfighthing. Anyone who has done any research about real WWII dogfighting knows that real turnfights were avoided.  Pilots of WWII prefered to hit and run, boom and zoom.  They had more at stake than a K/D ratio, they had their lives at stake.

In AH, neither you or anyone else pays his money so he can be a target, or play how someone else wants him to.  You pay to play your way.  As long as you arent ackstarring  (and you are obviously not), I say play your own way.

When someone belittles a 51 or 190 driver for only fighting from an advantage, I figure they are either poor losers, or dont understand much about smart flying in the game and an airplanes strengths and weaknesses.

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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2000, 04:22:00 PM »
Don't take me and LL too seriously Ice...
We just wanted to goad you into turning so we could kill you....all in fun you see..

Please don't feel like we were trying to tell you how to fly...that's your choice
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I would have liked to go 1 on 1 with you coalt...maybe someday..    

When you asked me if I wanted you to turn...did you think that I would say No ??

Salute....seeya up there   soon....  




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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2000, 04:51:00 PM »
Heyas Kwan!

Thanks for the pleasant reply

I'm sure we'll meet someday, and if you can get me to slow down, I'm sure you'll kill me...Otherwise, I might have a chance

I'm Out!