Author Topic: Remove GV icons please (Read 549 times)

cajun · « **Reply #15 on:** June 09, 2002, 02:17:24 PM »

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Originally posted by ccvi

Unless when it's raining. Make them move half their speed then

?? I keep hearing about rain and stuff, do they have weather in Main Arena???

ccvi · « **Reply #16 on:** June 09, 2002, 04:27:53 PM »

There sometimes is some dark cloud cover over some parts of the MA. I think it's safe to assume that ground below those clouds is wet. Just can't see the rain.

funkedup · « **Reply #17 on:** June 10, 2002, 12:59:48 AM »

Make it so GVs can't see plane icons.

Chairboy · « **Reply #18 on:** June 10, 2002, 01:07:43 AM »

Hey funked, are you deliberately missing the point?

Qnm · « **Reply #19 on:** June 10, 2002, 01:26:35 AM »

adding to it one'd guess.

Chairboy · « **Reply #20 on:** June 10, 2002, 01:39:00 AM »

The problem being solved is that GVs have no cover. By all rights, GVs should be able to hide in trees once in a while.

Removing the GV icons is to partially make up for the lack of ground cover. Removing plane icons just sounds punitive.

ccvi · « **Reply #21 on:** June 10, 2002, 06:07:32 AM »

GVs can hide behind trees. Icons are disabled when a GV isn't visible because there's a tree between aircraft and GV.

Qnm · « **Reply #22 on:** June 10, 2002, 06:24:59 AM »

It sounded as though removing plane icons from GV view was complementary to disabling GV icons.

Tac · « **Reply #23 on:** June 10, 2002, 12:33:18 PM »

ccvi, that only holds true if the plane is in close proximity to the gv. aka, the plane's FE "pops up" the trees. If your M16 is inside a forest and an enemy plane at d4.0 makes a dive on you, the m16 will have its view AND guns blocked by the trees, but the enemy plane will be able to see you AND shoot you AND hit you, because on his FE there are no trees. Its only until the plane gets real close to the gv/ground that he gets the ground clutter pop up.

HFMudd · « **Reply #24 on:** June 10, 2002, 12:42:09 PM »

If the icons are removed from the GV's, which seems a good thing to me, would it be possible to add a small dust cloud (the standard GV smoke but light brown perhaps) for when they are moving?

popeye · « **Reply #25 on:** June 10, 2002, 12:43:31 PM »

Turn off the (enemy) GV icons when they are in the trees, to simulate forest cover. Turn off (enemy) GV icons when they are stopped for 2 (?) minutes, to simulate camouflage.

funkedup · « **Reply #26 on:** June 10, 2002, 12:45:28 PM »

The same things that make it too easy for planes to see GVs also make it too easy for GVs to see planes. Cover works both ways.

DeaconB · « **Reply #27 on:** June 10, 2002, 12:45:42 PM »

I personally think that the way it's done now is a good compromise. The problem with removing ANY of the icons is that there is no chance for silhouette recognition. You can't tell what country the incoming plane (or GV) is associated with because every country can use any of the planes.

In the Combat theater, where each side is restricted to certain planes, that would be a fun thing to try. It would be hard, though because a bogey has to be pretty close in AH before the shape is discernable.

Tac · « **Reply #28 on:** June 10, 2002, 01:15:38 PM »

funked, there is NO "cover". You can see this by getting your Panzer in a clear field and shooting at an enemy panzer at mid-long range that's inside a forest and is hugging a tree (tree in between you and him). He cant shoot at your or see you because the tree blocks him, but YOU can see and shoot him (AND hit him) because in your FE there is no forest, no trees.

Deacon: As it works now, your vehicle will NOT shot enemy vehicle icons, but it will show friendly vehicle icons. The same should be applied to planes. You should see friendly gv icons but not enemy gv icons when you in a plane.

I wonder how much FPS hit AH would get if HTC added permanent treelines like those in WW2OL?

Chairboy · « **Reply #29 on:** June 10, 2002, 06:57:29 PM »

Perhaps there should be an alert that goes off whenever someone uses WWIIOL as an example of how to do something.

"Maybe we should blah blah blah, like in WWII Onlin-" (whoop! whoop! whoop!) SYSTEM> 'RED ALERT!'