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Offline lasse

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« on: June 10, 2002, 03:42:37 PM »
I had several flights with a Lancaster today.

So, on my 3rd or 4th flight I get lots of pings while on runway, fuel leak and elevator gone almost before I started rolling.
I managed to stop the plane before liftoff.
This was at a friendly field, 100% up, no cons on radar, and several friendly planes lifting off.
No one saw any con attacking me.
I replane and take a new lancaster, just after takeoff, I get pinged again, lots of pings, taking out 2 of my fuels, for the next 5 min I get a lots of pings, without anyone seeing anything that could be a possible enemy.
Even a squadmate joins me in the flight with a C47, when we fly wingtip to wingtip I still get hit a lot, even get a pilot wounded.
While my squadmate still see no con.

This ghost plane pinged me for about 15 min in 3 flights, and doing alot of harm.
The ping sounded like .303 or smaller ammo (if there is such in here)

What might it have been?
On my 4 tour it was gone, and never came back.
(Perhaps that Exorsism my squadmate held, drowe the poltergeist away;))
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2002, 03:48:43 PM »
Seems to be a problem growing worse. Apparantly it's an exploitable bug with users who have one of the Linksys units.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54992

and a few more topics like that in the "internet connectivity" forumn

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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2002, 03:52:58 PM »
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Originally posted by K West
Seems to be a problem growing worse. Apparantly it's an exploitable bug with users who have one of the Linksys units.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54992

and a few more topics like that in the "internet connectivity" forumn

 Westy


This isn't just Linksys routers. It happens to me as well, the ghost state that is, and I am on a cable modem, road runner. This is the strangest thing. No net status, no icons, just dots and still get text messages and vox but no one can see me. I can tell when it's about to happen when my sounds start getting screwy.

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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2002, 04:15:19 PM »
I have been in the "ghost" stage,  and I can't speak for others but in my case, I never saw a plane, only dots.    Yes ground targets are visible and you are able to hit them,  and you can still be hit by gun emplacements, but never saw any planes or other ground vehicles.  

Now reading this again I am assuming that the Spitfire I engaged about two weeks ago in the CT knew I was there when I shot him down., cause I saw him,  after that I saw no more targets, just dots,  even though I was watching text in the buffer that indicated there were several friendlies and enemies in my same area over the same field.  

Once I got the port numbers from HTC support, everything was fine.

I don't think its possible to shoot down anybody while you are in this "ghost" stage, but it maybe possible to fire in the general direction and possibly hit someone even though you can't see them.  

I have posted in those threads one way to fix this problem, there are probably other ways also.

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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2002, 04:22:58 PM »
I've seen it.  I really doubt it's a cheat.  I think there's many things to consider, but a direct cheat is almost out of the question.  As long as there are online games, there will be code savy dipnods trying to cheat, however I seriously doubt they would last as long as THIS particular incidence has been going on in AH.  It's gotta be Internt/lag/linksys firmware etc etc lol.  I've only been in AH for about a year and a half.  When I first came on board, I heard bout some crap where P51's were seen bombing fields with hundreds of bombs.... HTC immediately fixed it.  Bravo... I think thats the SOP for HTC.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2002, 04:28:57 PM »
I call it the Inviso plane syndrome, last night I made my plane go inviso by accident and emailed Pyro this morning with the details. I also have screen shots if they want them but I have not heard anything back as of yet. I didn't want to post it on the bug board for fear that this would get way out of hand. I really enjoy this game as is but something like this needs to be fixed asap.

You can shoot someone down while invisible and yes I can do it on purpose so I'd call this a cheat. Though it may be specific to my OS and video card combo.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2002, 04:33:22 PM by VWE001 »

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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2002, 04:39:32 PM »
Happened to me today also. Several people witnessed my 262 being shot to pieces by something while I was tailing a typhoon on the deck.

I took one similar ping already earlier which took out one of the cannons, then a few moments later I dove on the running tiffy, chased him for a while and when I caught him finally, something pinged my engine and tail off. 4 friendlies behind me and they didn't see any other enemies except the tiffy I was chasing.
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2002, 04:44:16 PM »
Sounds getting screwy? Maybe it's not a problem of the router but a problem of the driver for the network card you use to connect to the router? i remember a game that kept crashing on some certain situations with some old drivers. If sounds get screwy that might be caused by some broken network data received from the driver of the network card? is it a realtek maybe?

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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2002, 05:13:14 PM »
I have had this happen a couple times, in H2H, before I started my subscription.  I am on a 56k sportster modem.  Now, I film everything, but it hasn't happened to me in several weeks.  I still could never make it happen intentionally.

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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2002, 05:22:09 PM »
This explains a lot of what I'm not seeing in the arenas lately. I've seen troops magicaly appear outa thin air more than once and have gotten killed by ghosts at an increasing rate too. Hopefully HTC can do something about this and soon because it seems that more and more people are figuring out how to use this bug.

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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2002, 05:22:55 PM »
Isn't a Sportster modem just a winmodem?

I believe it might be.

I've never seen this problem- on 56K dial-up using a ZooM ISA.

You guys checked to see if IRQs are being shared between your modem/NIC and sound or something else?

It sounds like an internal system burp... something external to HTC.
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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2002, 05:58:18 PM »
I already researched the IRQ and memory range settings. Not even close. My SMC nic is using IRQ11 where my Sound Blaster Live (latest drivers) is using IRQ 5. There is a large seperation in the memory and I/O ranges.

My cable modem is a SurfBoard from Motorola.

Like others here, I don't see aircraft either, just dots.

ccvi, good call. I'll check that. Although I'm not using a realtek, the symptoms are exactly as you describe in your diagnosis. My sound card drivers are updated but not sure at this time about the NIC drivers.

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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2002, 06:10:52 PM »
Yech.  It is a winmodem.  Soon to be DSL, but for now it's stock winmodem.   I haven't seen the problem frequently, and I sure don't know how to cause it to happen.  I do know that I'm not sharing IRQ's.  I payed close attention to that.  I hope an answer comes sooner or later, but for now, with me, it doesn't affect the game much.  I still have fun.

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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2002, 01:12:19 AM »
On my end I am connected to DSL line, and I dont have any Linksys router.

Rock solid connection all night, and no warps whatsoever.

But if I understand this right, the problem is on the other end( the bogey), not mine ?

The hit pattern could indicate that it was someone spraying away, sometimes one or two pings, 15 sec later 50 hits, then just a couple again.
This sounds logical if he only saw a dot, and not my actual plane, so he had to guess where it was.

Just guessing here :)

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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2002, 02:40:17 AM »
Yep, has happened to me also.