That's it I give up!!!!

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Swager
As a people, Americans will do nothing to stop the crap in DC.  We always talk a big story but when it comes down to acting it's always "let the other guy do it"  

They will continue to take and foolishly use our money for their own needs.  I estimate billions of our $s is spent on personal congressmen needs.  Such as updates a new boat, fishing trip to Alaska, buying a mistress an apartment and new car, gambling in Vegas, townhouse in Rio, childrens college, and many, many others.

Most, if not all politician are crooks and swindlers.  The sooner you realize this the better off you'll be.

I put politicians on the same line as most lawyers and car salesmen.

Sorry Nimitz,  I did print "most"  

Hey "John Denver" if we want your opinion, we'll give it to you, understand that mister?

[easymo]

Defend the Constitution Udie. You wont go to far wrong.

 Strangely it seems to always put you on the wrong side of what happens to be PC for the day. I put up with a lot of crap, for being a solider defending it, back in the sixties.  I've put up with the same sort of crap, for defending it in writing, here on this board.  But it is worth it.  It has a continuity that will survive whatever nitwit trend, happens to be fashionable at the time.

[Charon]

at least the majority of Americans (minus a few here and the media ) have an Admin in the WH now it trusts

Eagler

And, of course, the other 50 percent that didn't vote for him.


Charon

[popeye]

One side wants to control your public life, the other side wants to control your private life.  Take your choice.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Eagler
heck, it ain't perfect (it's the gov ) but it's 10,000X better than 93 - 00. not as much fun for the tabloids

at least the majority of Americans (minus a few here and the media ) have an Admin in the WH now it trusts

The majority of the sheep like Dubya. Go figure.

[Udie]

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM


The majority of the sheep like Dubya. Go figure.

 the majority liked bill clinton too.



Like I said we're doomed.......


 I think easymo has it pegged though.....

[Sandman]

No argument. Defend the Constitution. It will outlast these knuckleheads.... (I hope.)

[Udie]

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
No argument. Defend the Constitution. It will outlast these knuckleheads.... (I hope.)

 I generally agree but when these knuckleheads work together it usually hurts or subverts the constitution.

[Charon]

IMO both parties are about the same. There are the "real" issues, mostly involving campaign $$ that are then morphed into "voting" issues presented for party consumption in the form of a soap opera or WWF match.

Occasionally journalists point out the real issues, but they are complex (which the public doesn't like to spend time thinking about), and the journalist might lose precious access, so instead we hear the appropriate "voting" issues (from both sides just to be balanced of course) while the same old same old goes on behind the scenes like it has for 200 some years.

IMO, middle class whites are about as well served by the Republicans as minorities are served by the Democrats, and both parties work really hard to make sure their supports never catch on.

WTG easymo, BTW, my thoughs exactly.

Charon

[Voss]

It's not just politicians there, Udie. The media has slanted in favor of the Dem's for too long. In this last election, the most popular news services reported WAY too early on a Dem victory, and NOT because there was any evidence. But, CNN especially, always represented Clinton in a favorable light (hell, they still hunt his shadow dwelling, skulking bellybutton for an interview), and since the CEO of CNN is a personal friend of Clinton's it will not change anytime soon.

If you want to feel better, shoot/sell your TV and start listening to talk radio. It's dominated by Right minded people, and even O'Reilly can't get his foot in the door.

Oh, and your 2nd Amendment rights do not include the right to own a gun, especially not in order to overthrow a tyrannical government. That's not what the founding father's meant at all!

[Hangtime]

Forget the 'labels' Udie. Look at ISSUES...

Vote the issue, and the politician that best represents your stance on that issue and ignore 'party lines'.

Be a Conservalibrepublicrat.

[Sandman]

So... watch TV if you want the view from the left. Listen to AM radio to get the right.

What? No objective reporting?

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Udie
the majority liked bill clinton too....

for totally different reasons, I hope you know that

how long do you think Clinton would have lasted (in favorable polls) if today's economy was then???

[mietla]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Forget the 'labels' Udie. Look at ISSUES...

Vote the issue, and the politician that best represents your stance on that issue and ignore 'party lines'.

Be a Conservalibrepublicrat.

Exactly, but the trouble is that no one really represents my stance on issues.

In all my years of voting I was always voting "Oh, no! anything but this guy"

[Jochen]

I don't know who to hate or like anymore in Washington. The waters have finaly become to watered for me to use my limited intelect to figure it out. All parties and all branches of government are effed up as far as I'm concerned.

USA... Love it or leave it!