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Offline texace

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« on: June 12, 2002, 12:42:16 PM »
Hmm...I see now exactly where my generation is going. My generation is going striaght into the toilet, and taking societly with them.

I don't get it. Where did we go wrong? Where did teenagers become so...shall we say...screwed up? Everyone I talk to that's my age have done drugs, do them, drink, smoke, screw around, all because it's the cool thing to do.

Cool...there's a word that seems to run everyone's lives nowadays. If it ain't cool, it ain't in. Teenagers are obsessed with the "cool" things that they don't seem to see their lives are going to the toejamter.

Alright, I admit, I am not your "normal" American teenager. Yeah, I'm 17, but I differ so much from everyone else that it don't seem normal. Think, I actually LIKE history...I stay away from drugs...I do things that adults do, as I like doing them.

And yet this makes me "un-cool" and looked down upon from people my age. I'm a nerd, and am treated as such. I myself never wanted to get into the "in" crowd, as I found it to be constraining and boring. I never wanted to deface my body and mind just being "cool", and I don't intend to.

So, we see that the American teenager is slowly showing the downgrade of our society. Kids are experimenting younger and younger, and I'm worried. Well, not really, but just nervous. Or future "leaders" are drugged-up nancy boys who are more interested in finding the next cool thing than getting their toejam together.

I'm looking at this from my own standpoint, and frankly I find it all absurd. What is there left for any of us to do if our "future leaders" are like tihs? Or do I stand alone?

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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2002, 01:05:23 PM »
Always Remember:
the "cool" ppl usually end up working for the "nerds" :)

After high school for many, college the rest ... most usually grow up fast faced with the day to day struggle just to make ends meet. "Cool" goes right out the window ...
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2002, 01:06:20 PM »
Don't worry, a few of those drugged-up nancy boys will find god-fearing women who will make them change their evil ways.  Heck, one of them might even end up President of the United States.


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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2002, 01:16:35 PM »
hey popeye , don't talk about bill clinton that way, he was "the greatest president the USA every had"

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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2002, 01:57:33 PM »
Texace,

I know exactly what ya mean.  I'm 17 as well and in the same position.  The biggest difference between us and "them" is that we take in the whole scene for what it's worth, we see the big picture.  Most of them are wrapped up in their own small, miniscule worlds in which the only thing that matters is themselves.  You can only get so far with that.  Most of them are too wrapped up in their little clicques and other non-important things.  They're more concerned with getting wasted this weekend, who they're going to get high with, and who they're going to bang.  Seriously... in a small suburb with a high school of about 900 students.. (I'm not surprised anymore) I know maybe 20+ girls who've already had one or more abortions.  You can't "convert" them... its their own choice to be ignorant, hypocritical, and selfish.  They'll learn the hard way.  I also know of some who are completely capable of being like us and deliberately choose that path just because they're too afraid to think for themselves.  Its sad.

However, the entire age group is not lost.  Take us for example... you'll meet more dudes like yourself and I and find you're not alone.  They are, however, few and far between.  I can find them easily on the internet because its only minds talking to one another.  (of course it's still possible to hide behind an ego on the i-net as well.)

I have a good friend in my community that lives a few blocks away.  We think so alike its scary :).  If it weren't for him, I would have probably been sucked into all that BS you described.  I like to think that we're getting a head start on being decent intellectuals.  When you meet someone like yourself, you can just tell.  I stick around after school some times and shoot the toejam with teachers, coaches, or whoever and I hear them say or imply when they see other degenerates... "Look, its your future employees."  I laugh.  Its depressing.. but true.  Think about it..  If you have a kid at age 16, your life is  pretty  much over.  That responsibility right there will take up 99% of your time.  Its extremely difficult to do something you've dreamed of when you're that young and have a baby on your hands.  I have friends that have been in jail, I have friends that have their own kid(s), I have friends that are on the right track... its a huge mix.  

Most teens can't begin to comprehend the things me and my close buddies discuss.  Its just too far over their head and its normal for us.  Normal conversations in the O'club would baffle 75% of the students at my school.  Another difference between us and 'them' would be that we want to learn... not simply "get through school and be out of this hell-hole." My friends and I buy books on physics, calculus, philosophy, etc because we WANT to learn.  I know for a fact that I'll be successfull in the years to come.    I have a good work ethic, have a good head on my shoulders, and I know a damn well I won't fail.  I have my life already planned out.  

My advice to you is to continue doing what you're doing.  Help others out on your journey if they need it.  If not, dont waste your time on them and the other degenerates.  They'll eventually learn the hard way.  

oct out.


[EDIT:  Punctuation and stuff... oops.   After reading this over I cant believe I wrote that much :D  And please dont think I'm putting myself up on a pedestal.  I may be blunt, but thats the way it is.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2002, 02:06:36 PM by Octavius »
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2002, 02:05:46 PM »
I guess it's all in your perspective. I didn't smoke until I was 18(weed that is.... alchohol is a drug, so if you don't include alchohol as a drug, I won't include weed as a drug).. I didn't do drugs until I was in college... but not because it was "cool"... because of the experience.

Sure, maybe some people out there do it cuz it's "cool" or whatever... some people do it just because they want to.

I guess it's all in the way you see it, if you don't do it then you think people who do it are doing it cuz you think they think their cool while they might be doing it for some other reason.

Of course the funny thing is- you think it's any different than in the '60s? Hell, back then drugs WERE the thing to do... now most people (atleast that I know) do it out of choice, not to be part of the in-crowd. But then again, I am 21.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2002, 02:14:56 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Eagler
Always Remember:
the "cool" ppl usually end up working for the "nerds" :)

After high school for many, college the rest ... most usually grow up fast faced with the day to day struggle just to make ends meet. "Cool" goes right out the window ...


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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2002, 02:20:25 PM »
texace,
The maturity in your post convinces me our future is in very capable hands. Thank you for not bowing to peer pressure by getting involved with drugs! You seem to have your head on straight and I'm sure there's many others your age who are just as concerned for the future as you are. My daughter is 17, and she also is planning her college and her life in a positive and healthy way. Don't worry, every generation has slackers.

Hold on to your values, be the very best person you can, give 100% at everything you do and your potential is limitless. Like Eagler said, some day the slackers will be working for you. Thank you for reafirming my belief that our future is in good hands and there's many teenagers just like you who will someday be this Nation's leaders. <>

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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2002, 02:22:23 PM »
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Originally posted by texace


I don't get it. Where did we go wrong? Where did teenagers become so...shall we say...screwed up? Everyone I talk to tha
I'm looking at this from my own standpoint, and frankly I find it all absurd. What is there left for any of us to do if our "future leaders" are like tihs? Or do I stand alone?


One more thing.

I don't think these future leaders are going down the drain at all.  If we have people like you and I that can see the big picture, pick out the hypocrisies and faults of other generations, then we'll alright.  We know what NOT to do.  I'm confident not all is lost Texace :).  No matter how low a generation can go, there will always be some that are going above and beyond and will outshine the lowest of the low.
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2002, 02:36:40 PM »
The funny thing is that I read the posts of Texace and Octavius and they are not much different than the same concerns we had twenty years ago.
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2002, 02:55:52 PM »
Very true Sandman, very true indeed.

Incidently, Oct, Semperfi, and BlueiceJ are all under 18 and fly for VMF-323.  I have to say that I'm proud to have such fine, well behaved gentlemen on my squadron.  Its a pleasure knowing that these men are of the future leaders somewhere in whatever industry they choose.

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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2002, 03:04:33 PM »
Man, Oct..you're right...you and me are alike in severl ways...kinda scary... :D

But seriously...the way I post and write is the way I am. I think there is no need to hide behind an alias. Everything I ever said on this board, in game, or in my writings is stright from my mind.

There's another thing I've seen as well. People hide behind things, just becuase they know they can. It's an annoying thought, but it' true.

But there's also the matter of where you grow up. In my high school of no more than 550 students, I can guarentee that at least 3/4 of them are not virgins...have smoked weed...have drank, and the like. I can also guarentee that at least 1/2 of the women there have had abortions or are pregnant. In this one school year alone I knew of 5 cases of a girl leaving becuase she's pregnant, and that's just the first semester.

I know that what I said generalizes a little, but it isn't that far from the truth. There are few like Oct and I, but they're out there. Hell I've had 5 cases of serious mental problems someone asked me to help them with, one my best friend and another my own girlfriend. People like oct and I are the kind that will end up excelling.

I have yet to see anyone that acts their own age or acts their own way at my high school. No one there is nearly as civil and caring as my brother and I. We are the "super nerds" of Lake Worth High School, as we're part of the very few who give a damn.

But it is nice to see others out there who are the same way...perhaps there's room for improvment after all...

BYW, thanks, Oct... ;) :D

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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2002, 03:53:05 PM »
It's nice to stay away from big trouble....but you don't want to end up with an bellybutton as tight as Bill Bennett's.

"Moderation in all things....including moderation."

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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2002, 04:11:57 PM »
cc Popeye, the guys in high school/college who didn't experience things usually end up being the guy who no one likes working with/for.
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2002, 04:21:00 PM »
We are wolfs and there are very few of us.
 They are sheep, and there are many of them.
 Sometimes we dress up like sheep and hang around with them.
 But we all ways go back to being our self, wolfs.