Author Topic: B-25H or Hs129 (Read 503 times)

Spritle · « **on:** June 17, 2002, 11:24:33 PM »

How about bringing in a B-25H or the Hs129B-3. I know that they are pretty different aircraft considering one is a bomber and the other isn't, but hey they both had a 75mm cannon.

Neither one is a real barn burner so what say yea?

Spritle

Karnak · « **Reply #1 on:** June 18, 2002, 12:05:41 AM »

How about a Mosquito FB.Mk XVIII?

That'd be much easier for them to add as the 3D model is 99% present already.

Its got a 57mm gun.

whgates3 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 18, 2002, 12:26:12 AM »

wasn't there a Me262 w/ a 50 mm?

Karnak · « **Reply #3 on:** June 18, 2002, 12:32:05 AM »

Yes, but only experimental. They tested it in combat, it failed and they discontinued with the concept.

Fishu · « **Reply #4 on:** June 18, 2002, 12:43:15 AM »

Hs129 with its neat armament options could be cool.
Different kind of gunpacks...

cajun · « **Reply #5 on:** June 18, 2002, 12:48:17 AM »

We need the italian bombers used to attack malta, a CR42 and a Gloster Gladiator/ Sea Gladiator, I've been wanting to make a malta scenario

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Dr Zhivago · « **Reply #6 on:** June 18, 2002, 03:16:11 AM »

Hs 129B-2/Wa with two MG 151/20 (125 rounds each), two MG 131 and MK103 (30 rounds) under fuselage.

And some biplane would be cool...

Wilbus · « **Reply #7 on:** June 18, 2002, 04:52:31 AM »

Difference between the 75mm in the HS129 and in the B25 is that the HS129's gun is a slightly remade anti tank ground gun, it's got a muzzle velocity of about 3300 feet per second and can penetrate about 130mm armor from 1000 meters distance (meaning it could kill every tank on the battle field easyily). On a typical pass, starting from 1000 meters away, it could fire around 3-4 rounds.

The B25H used a low velocity 75mm, short barrel slow speed of the shell, far from as effecitve against tanks as the HS129's gun. B25's guns was more a gun for softer targets like veichles and fuel dumps etc. Then again, B25 could still fly pretty well with the 75mm, the HS129 was reported to be a brick (even more so then without the gun).

I want the HS129 though

Dr Zhivago · « **Reply #8 on:** June 18, 2002, 06:07:41 AM »

Was that B25s low velocity 75mm cannon borrowed from sherman or was it just normal field gun

Ju88 P series planes could carry single 7,5cm Pak40 or two 3,7cm Flak38 or two MK103 under fuselage but ju88 isnt so agile like Ju87G and Hs129...

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #9 on:** June 18, 2002, 06:20:52 AM »

These guns would be excelent anti-ship weapons, a good choice against destroyers or, if included in the future, cargo vessels.

Wilbus · « **Reply #10 on:** June 18, 2002, 09:42:03 AM »

Well actually, JU88 would be for more agile then a HS129, speically if the HS129 is carrying a 75mm, that gun was really too big for the plane and it even had an emergency release mechanism for the gun. the HS129 should far more dammage though.

Nilsen · « **Reply #11 on:** June 18, 2002, 09:52:43 AM »

HS129B-2 pls

KG45 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 18, 2002, 11:38:39 AM »

'bring the Hs-129' has been my sig. since i registered.

but it's partly in jest. i know there are more important planes that should be added first. i just built it as a model as a kid, just kinda took a shine to it.

what we really need is the He-162 'Salamader'

imagine 'Salamander' pic here!

midnight Target · « **Reply #13 on:** June 18, 2002, 12:04:00 PM »

from the Warbirds resource group:

Hs 129B-2 Series:
Two 13mm MG 131 Machine Guns in nose.
Two 20mm MG 151/20 cannon in nose.
Various weapons were fitted inclusding 37mm BK 3.7 and 75mm BK 7.5. An interesting weapon was a battery of six 75mm smoothbore recoiless rifles that fired downawrds and to the rear. This system was fired by an automatic magnetic trigger that fired when the aircraft flew over metal objects. This system was reported to be quite successful.

Spritle · « **Reply #14 on:** June 18, 2002, 09:22:49 PM »

Just a quick search on the web and I found out that very very few Hs129's actually flew with the 75mm gun. It was the 30mm that got the lion's share of the tank kills. Still would be a cool plane. I would still like to see the 75mm just so you could get those one hit kills on ALL GV's.

The 75mm in the B-25H was primarily intended as an anti-shipping weapon. It was hand loaded by the bombardier. Each shell weighed in at a healthy 15 lbs. So it wasn't exactly rapid fire. But you did get the option of carrying 1,500 lbs of bombs in addition to the big gun. I imagine it would make short work of airfield hangers. On the other hand since you don't get very many rounds it's not like your going to bring down an entire base with a single B-25.

Both would be cool, with the B-25 getting the nod as a slightly more versatile aircraft, but the Hs129 being slightly more unique.

Spritle