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Offline rickod

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32 plane limit rearing its ugly head ???
« on: June 20, 2002, 01:03:01 PM »
Ive seen several posts about inviso planes lateley .
Im wondering if its the same problem WB had when ever 32 planes are visible the 33rd OR 34 OR 35 isnt ,
seems possible considering who programmed WB and AH .


Just a thought

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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2002, 01:05:45 PM »
If that were the case, it would of happened a long, long, long time ago...

The planes closest to you will be displayed, and the others will be dots but will still have icons.

This ain't WW2Ol.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2002, 01:10:50 PM »
I didnt compare it to ww2ol  

this very same issue occured in wb all too often when ever we flew large buff formations we would never see the enemy fighters swoop in just the kill and buffer notice
and saying this would have happened long ago is kinda suspect as well since its only been since aw went tits up that we have had High numbers in the main .

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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2002, 01:16:57 PM »
True- but high numbers in the main are independent of the plane view limit.

There were still very large 40+ plane furballs before the influx of new players.

I compared it to WW2Ol, because they don't appear to have an "intelligent" max view limit.. but rather one that randomly takes aircraft/humans/whatever out of view.

But I'll say this much, I've never had the invisible plane shooting me down syndrome... 50% just may be hysteria, the other 50% might be actual problems.. most likely associated with networking or not enough ports open on the PC/firewall/router.
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2002, 01:24:14 PM »
I agree with ya SW. Its most likely a network problem, however, not necessarliy router/firewall. I don't run a firewall during play and my cable modem isn't a Linksys router.

I think that I'm experienceing something a little different than the invsible plane deal. I've never been shot down by one however I believe I have been in an invisible state but with dots visible only.

I can almost reproduce it at will now. If I use AHVoice excessively in a busy area, I lose vox and icons and have a steady green beacon. Text still works but that is most likely due to protocol as I believe you stated elsewhere. I eventually disco after 4 or 5 minutes. If I stay off of AHVocie, it doesn't happen.

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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2002, 01:27:29 PM »
There is no 32 plane limit.  Your thought is flawed.


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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2002, 02:30:21 PM »
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There is no 32 plane limit.  Your thought is flawed.


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I bet $50 there IS a limitation setting, as in most game codings. Whether it 32 or 40 or what ever, but one thing you can count on it just doesn't allow unlimited viewing of all ac at once.

I think maybe your thoughts are flawed.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2002, 02:37:21 PM »
Oh great Furious, now look what you've done



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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2002, 02:58:00 PM »
I agree with Furious - I've seen more than 32 planes at a time.

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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2002, 03:11:17 PM »
For those who don't know or haven't read it on these boards yet, the "Inviso plane" issue/bug/problem (call it what you will) is real and reproducable. HTC was informed by at least 2 people that I know of on how to do it, 1 of which I know sent an e-mail covering this.

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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2002, 03:41:41 PM »
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For those who don't know or haven't read it on these boards yet, the "Inviso plane" issue/bug/problem (call it what you will) is real and reproducable. HTC was informed by at least 2 people that I know of on how to do it, 1 of which I know sent an e-mail covering this.


I'll bet your right Acid but i can bet it's both.

I assume you are ACID from AW, if so and if not

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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2002, 03:46:36 PM »
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I assume you are ACID from AW, if so and if not


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nah...never played AW I remember when he (AW acid) joined though, I think he set his name to acidfunk but I could be wrong. :)

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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2002, 03:47:51 PM »
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I agree with Furious - I've seen more than 32 planes at a time.


Well I'm sure you have, but  a realistic question would be are you guessing you saw 32 + or did you count them? Sinde we know that counting them would be comperable to counting running chickens I would say the latter is a guess.

The point is there most likely is such a setting. I know this because I used to set them in another sim. Their default was 40.

It could very well be a combination of both visibleicons, visibleplanes and or a simple kloking.

The problem I see is this, ..

I've WATCH planes go invisible in AH, literally, reapeear and disappear again. Each and every time I was shot down I asked the killing pilot what was up, NEVER once have ai ever gotten a response. Here's the kicker, there were nly 3 aircraft in the entire area. vsibleicons, and or visibleplanes or what ever it is is NOT the case.

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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2002, 03:49:41 PM »
Somehow reply went to wrong thread....

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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2002, 03:50:58 PM »
FT_Animal,

From the proverbial horses mouth

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There is no plane limit. You should see everyone.

here: http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23802&highlight=plane+limit

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Yes an no dancer, On detail plane information yes there is still a 32 limit. But you will see All the planes with in a visible dot range .

further clarified by Hans with:
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All aircraft are visible, but only the 32 nearest aircraft will get high fidelity 3D positional updates. The rest just get quick and dirty "close enough" positional updates in the 3D space around you.

here: http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9711&highlight=plane+limit

My thought was not flawed.  There is no 32 plane limit.


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