Author Topic: F6F built to kill jap zeros??? (Read 599 times)

laz · « **Reply #30 on:** June 22, 2002, 10:26:04 AM »

Ya Lazs, You nailed that one right on the head. Anyways wipass, I do have a tad bit experience considering I turnfight a6m's with a 38. You can't just say "This plane outturns that plane" and leave it at that
There is more too it, and if you would like to learn, Give me a hollar in MA

Soulyss · « **Reply #31 on:** June 22, 2002, 01:05:43 PM »

Another issues facing the IJN pilots in WW2 was alititude, at high alt the hellcat out performed the zero in most catagories, even turn performance was close I believe. So the IJN/IJA pilots had the problem of either A) giving the USN pilots the alt advantage or B) climbing up to meet them and suffering the performance penalties.

Also historically speed was a more deciding factor in combat than turning radius.

Angus · « **Reply #32 on:** June 22, 2002, 01:59:24 PM »

Someone mentioned that turning ability was not an important factor at all. Well, for an F6F with a Spit IX on its tail, that does not quite fit.
However, Speed and acceleration are very important factor, especially if the difference between the two planes is big enough to allow one of them to draw away after some hard maneuvers.
In AH, one is often confronted with a non-historical gaggle of bandits. In such an engagement, turning may keep you alive, simply because you never manage to get up enough pace to get away. In there, the Zeke shines. But 1 on 1 I would put my money on the F6F.

Karnak · « **Reply #33 on:** June 22, 2002, 09:50:10 PM »

Steven,

The number of kills each of those aircraft got in the five tours pretty much eliminates that kind of distortion. A6M5bs were wining more than 50% of the 1 on 1 encounters with F6F-5s. I know that I certainly have found the F6F-5 to be an easy kill in the A6M5b, but that is simply due to misuse of the F6F-5.

Steven · « **Reply #34 on:** June 22, 2002, 11:08:25 PM »

Karnak,

I don't really know, but you may be right. But I find true 1v1's rare in the MA.

ZeroPing · « **Reply #35 on:** June 22, 2002, 11:24:25 PM »

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When you flew the F6F you said it "I can't turn with it at all" then you say "Ive killed many F6fs with a zeke 1 on 1 and in furballs"

i said IT cant turn with it at all... IN the MA (yes at 350 mph but how long will that last? not long) so..... duh!

Otto · « **Reply #36 on:** June 23, 2002, 10:46:48 AM »

"i said IT cant turn with it at all... "

You are correct. I should have been more careful.

My only defense is your somewhat 'twisted' syntax that makes the sentence hard to read. But that's a small issue.

Squire · « **Reply #37 on:** June 23, 2002, 11:28:00 AM »

The best way to see the difference is try a TOD or the CT and fly the F6F with a wingman vs them.

ZeroPing · « **Reply #38 on:** June 23, 2002, 08:26:59 PM »

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My only defense is your somewhat 'twisted' syntax that makes the sentence hard to read. But that's a small issue.

Always had a problem with making hard sentences make sense to other people