Originally posted by lazs1:
LP.. Yes... if they can't/won't be fixed they may as well remove the buffs so far as a lot of us are concerned... As a fighter only guy I find buffs extremely frustrating. A lone buff is capable of ruining the game for a dozen or 2 fighters... They have WAY to much affect on the game... A single player should not be able to ruin so many other players fun so easily...and how do they do such a thing? Well....
See, you are stuck with that argument. Sure, one buff and his ordinance can mire a field, but Laz, THATS HOW THE GAME IS! I enjoy a rational discussion with you or anyone, but you continue to act as though this game is a "furball", when by definition, its largely a game of strategy. Otherwise, we wouldn't have bombers or vehicles like the M3, LVT or C-47, would we?
It's partly the fault of the way things are set up and partly the way bombers are modeled.
the fields are set up pretty far apart with all but a few being useless at any one time so far as practical fighter sortie is concerned.... this is bad enough but.. It is coupled with the fact that the bases don't get captured 9 times out of ten... they simply become useless to either side... A lone buff hits the fuel or hangers... the field is closed but not captured... Anyone wishing to find a fite takes of from a far back base and flys over all the useless fields for several sectors and a totally boring game experiance.
The lone buff, for example, the Lancaster, has 14 1,000 pound bombs. At best, he can down 4 hangars (12 bombs) with 2 1ks left. Even on the small bases, he could only knock down, say, all the FHs, but not the BHs or VH. The B-17, largely the evil we have been discussing of late, carries even less, only able to drop 2 hangars. In a porking role, both could hit radar, barracks and fuels, bringing the base down to 25% fuel.
So you see, one buff can not do all that you claim, in downing all the hangars. He can smoke your resources and cripple you, but not entirely wipe you out.
It is allso a fault of the buffers attitude and the bomber itself. The attitude part is the attention starved... "look at me, I dropped all the fighter hangers' but the main thing is that they are able to! The accuracy of their bombs is simply wrong. I don't believe that a lone bomber could hit more than one strat target from alt even if he were very lucky. He certainly should not be able to hit a ship.
You are adding atitude, rather, injecting attitude to back your argument. As a long buff driver a majority of the time, I'm not throwing any such attitude...if I'm bombing, Im bombing for a cause. I certainly cant speak for others.
As for the sights and accuracy, I'll simply remind you guys of the dispersion on the guns in your various fighter aircraft. Tit for tat.
You make it clear, Laz, you have no love of buffs at any level. With that known prejudice, I wont even try to explain beyond that.
What's the result? Well.... animosity. Nobody who enjoys a good fite will sit and cap a field so that everyone else can have fun fiting down below... even if he spots a bomber he is faced with an unrealistic and unfun fite that will probly not stop the suicide buff from closing the field to fighters in any case. A waste of time.
Sigh. You brought a knife to a gun fight
You want to play the victim, that's fine.
<shrug>
If the fields stayed open to fighters till they were closed completely or even if they were a lot easier to capture things would be better. If the accuracy of bombs were not quite so ridiculous things would be better. Till then..
Surely ye jest?
If that were the case, you couldnt capture a field. You are smarter than that. You simply want unlimited abilities for fighters to spawn despite their hangars being destroyed.
Let's see, you want buff guns weaker, easier to kill, plus you hate buffs anyways, oh, and you want unlimited fighter spawns even if the fighter hangar is down. What else, Laz? Maybe some invincibility option as you roll down the runway so you arent vulched by enemy fighters?
Didn't they make a dueling area to appease your wants?
A lot of guys just ignore buffs and hope they don't ruin things too badly or, if they do, that there will be some other place to fite. That don't make for a lot of good feelings whenever a buff flies over.
I think your data is flawed, from what I've read. You are assuming everyone around you agrees with you, and Im not so sure that is the case. We all agree there are some issues to the bombers, but you are to the extremes in how much you despise them.
I think you know all this to be true but are simply pretending that you don't get it.
lazs
Nope, you are wrong again. You assume that what you are saying is an absolute truth and I'll be happy to debate you on it. You allude to others, but they do not seem to share your [narrow-minded] opinion on the role of the buffs.
Basically, you're peeved that this game has a strategic play rolled into it, and God forbid it intrude in your furball style of play. If the game wasnt about capturing bases and resets, I'd agree with you that its a fighter-vs-fighter game. But it isn't, and once again, you despise the bombers because, well, they exist.
