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Offline viking73

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« on: July 14, 2002, 07:45:02 PM »
The aircraft that have bombs on wings and in bomb bay do not drop all bombs. If I am carrying 4 on wing and 4 in bay and I select 8 it should drop all. Don't need selection of bombs from different points. Should be able to just select bombs and enter a salvo # and open bay. Either that or have a selection that drops both wings and bay bombs. Same goes for P-47D that has bombs in multiple areas.
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2002, 11:46:05 AM »
So the whole point of your gripe is that you want to have an automatic bomb selection, the same way that you can have automatic fuel tank selection, because you don't want to have to remember to switch between hardpoints/bay loads? The last time I looked, that kind of selectivity only existed on the big bombers like the B-17, where you could pick which bomb racks would be triggered when you hit the pickle switch -- and even then, you'd have to reset the intervalometer so that you could trigger the rest of the bombs. A comment about mixed bomb loads from John R. Johnson, a navigator from the 100th BG, describing his 7th mission in December of 1943:

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I wasn't overly fond of these mixed bomb loads as some brain had figured out that, due to ballistic differences, the high explosive bombs and incendiary bombs would not fall in the same place if released at the same time. So, it was decided that the bombardier would set the intervalometer to release only the high explosive bombs. Then, as the last G.P. bomb was away, the navigator would start his stopwatch while the bombardier reset the intervalometer. After so many seconds had elapsed the navigator would hit the toggle switch to release the incendiaries. Never did find out if it worked or not.


It doesn't look like the bomb selection equipment of the period was particularly intelligent; I don't see that the problem requires fixing. Having an indicator in your bombsight view showing what your currently selected munition, salvo size, and delay are would be useful, though.

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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2002, 04:18:26 PM »
this would be useful for lancs with 500lb/1000lb & 4000lb

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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2002, 05:04:43 PM »
On a similar note, when you have an A-20 loaded with 4x500 pounders internal and another 4x500 pounders external, it's impossible to know which one is selected (so you can open bomb doors or not). I prefer to drop the external bombs first. Some sort of indicator would be nice.

Not the end of the world, though.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2002, 06:17:01 PM »
Pretty much my thought Dux. The A-20 is what brought this question to mind. I wasn't talking about heavy bombers but it is a good point about the 4000lb combo. In fact I've always wondered about the idea in AH of having different bomb loads in one bomb bay. This also brings up the question of a total stores drop which I wonder if planes in WWII had. Not for bombing but to unload your stores for evation, escape or better landing.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2002, 01:47:09 AM »
the b17 could either selected salvo (all at once),or train (salvo we have)


also, IRL, the bomb blast was much bigger, i think a 500lb could blow quite a sizable chunk out of a house(if not all of it)

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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2002, 09:07:33 AM »
The hardware probably wasn't as sophisticated for the fighters that are currently modelled, but there's an interesting description of the ordnance procedure for multiple ground-attack runs by an A-1H Skyraider here  (search down for 'Switchology 101'); from that description, it appears that using ordnance was a pretty manual process in  a non-bomber.