Author Topic: F4U-4 vrs NIK2 (Read 815 times)

F4UDOA · « **on:** June 24, 2002, 05:01:42 PM »

Heya's

Thought I would post this one to show how futile trying to use virtical maneuvers against a NIK2 can be with it's low speed virtical tail dance.

The shot that wrecked me was the one that took my flap off and slowed me to a crawl. Watching the film on the external film viewer you can see how quickly the NIK2 can recover speed and how well it handles at extreme low speed at high AoA.

BTW, I am not the best or most patient in these maneuevers so if I screwed up I can deal with it. You be the judge.

Hooligan · « **Reply #1 on:** June 24, 2002, 09:44:05 PM »

No film posted.

Hooligan

F4UDOA · « **Reply #2 on:** June 24, 2002, 10:26:06 PM »

Err,

It was to big. Can't figure out how to make it fit??

It's a 600K dogfight no matter how I slice it.

I'll try breaking it into small pieces.

F4UDOA · « **Reply #3 on:** June 24, 2002, 10:42:56 PM »

Is there a bug in the film editor?? When I edit the film the NME dissapears??

Is this a known bug?

Tac · « **Reply #4 on:** June 25, 2002, 02:39:50 AM »

Its the n1k Stealth Feature. It hides from incriminating films

Use this program to split apart and also to join big files:

http://www.freebyte.com/hjsplit/#hjsplit

Hristo · « **Reply #5 on:** June 25, 2002, 03:11:38 AM »

does this qualify as a whine or you have to post as MANDOBLE so all jump at you ?

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #6 on:** June 25, 2002, 03:13:58 AM »

Dont worry F4UDOA, at least no film needed to prove that for me. N1K2 and Spits became choppers after 1.04 patch.

Sikboy · « **Reply #7 on:** June 25, 2002, 07:32:28 AM »

Here's the post where I tried to understand where Mandoble was coming from. Being that I don't fly the N1K2, or have any trouble against them, I had no hidden interest in keeping a "flawed" model. But in the end, I think it was well demonstrated that this was much ado about nothing, and that although the N1K2 is the easiest plane to tailstand (witht he possible exception of the P-38), it's not some freaky UFO or Miracle Chopper. I thought I was pretty diplomatic in the begining of this post, but my efforts were met with hostility and sad, sad immaturaty. It's no wonder Mandoble is ridiculed the minute he posts something.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48553

-Sikboy

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #8 on:** June 25, 2002, 08:08:47 AM »

Sikboy, I'm almost sure you really are Montezuma, or just a copy

Sikboy · « **Reply #9 on:** June 25, 2002, 08:11:31 AM »

And I'm pretty sure that you're Ram.

-Sikboy

Sikboy · « **Reply #10 on:** June 25, 2002, 08:12:18 AM »

Oh wait, my mistake. You're Naudet.

-Sikboy

Sikboy · « **Reply #11 on:** June 25, 2002, 08:13:13 AM »

Oh, sorry, I was wrong again. You're Wilbus.

Hmmm, the list goes on.

-Sikboy

Samm · « **Reply #12 on:** June 25, 2002, 08:27:03 AM »

Everybody knows that the n1k2 has a better rate of climb than the f4u4 right ? So why would we be surprised that employing vertical maneuvres against the n1k2 when flying the f4u4 does not work well ?

If you found yourself in a situation where you had blown your E so badly that you couldn't get away from the guns of a n1k2 in an f4u4 well all I can say is shame on you .

You know you can't out climb it, you know you can't out accelerate it, you know you sure as hell can't out stallfight it, so what the heck we're you doing ?

Without seeing the film all we can do is speculate .

Sikboy · « **Reply #13 on:** June 25, 2002, 08:31:36 AM »

Samm, I don't think he was low E, I think he tried a Rope, and the Niki hung longer than he anticipated.

-Sikboy

Samm · « **Reply #14 on:** June 25, 2002, 08:34:08 AM »

BTW should the f4u4 have the sexier, lower, wider canopy . The f4u4 in wbIII does have the late style canopy but I'm not sure if it's a post war f4u4 or not .