Author Topic: Federal appeals court rules pledge of allegance unconstitutional (Read 728 times)

Wlfgng · « **on:** June 26, 2002, 03:40:52 PM »

what a bunch of crap!

Wingnut_0 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 26, 2002, 04:52:34 PM »

I would love to have it back in schools, as soon they remove the "Under God" that was NOT part of the original pledge to begin with.

Chris · « **Reply #2 on:** June 26, 2002, 05:22:03 PM »

When the majority of this country comes out and decides they are not under God, you will see the country fall. Some of you are young enough to live to see it. As for me I will remain "under God".

Regards

Chris:)

Braz · « **Reply #3 on:** June 26, 2002, 05:28:54 PM »

Heheh,

I like WW's sig, "I don't care what your religion is as long as long as your ashamed of it."

A pledge doesn't prove your love of freedom, imo.

miko2d · « **Reply #4 on:** June 26, 2002, 05:33:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Chris
When the majority of this country comes out and decides they are not under God, you will see the country fall. Some of you are young enough to live to see it. As for me I will remain "under God".

That is fine, but by making me proclaim allegiance in "one nation under God" you turn that solemn ceremony of affirming my patriotism into a LIE.
Why do I have to chose to either conspiciously NOT affirm my patriotism or to LIE?

miko

john9001 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 26, 2002, 05:56:38 PM »

point of order: the last time i gave a oath (2 mo ago ) i was asked , and i quote. "do you swear or affirm your testimony is the truth to the best of your knowledge"

no bible , no "god"

easymo · « **Reply #6 on:** June 26, 2002, 06:10:44 PM »

Most of the people on the 9th circuit court were appointed by Carter, and clinton. They are notorious for idiotic rulings. In this case I am glad they did it. The Supreme court will overrule them. And the matter will be settled once and for all.

The founders, for the most part, were religious people. Get used to it.

Yeager · « **Reply #7 on:** June 26, 2002, 06:12:51 PM »

Complex subject.

Mikos' point well taken.

What about God is unconstitutional anyway?

Is the Declaration of Independance unconstitutional as well??

What happens if some appeals court rules the constitution unconstitutional???

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #8 on:** June 26, 2002, 06:15:45 PM »

Yes Easymo, the founders were religious.

But this country was founded for freedoms, not in the name of "God".... founded BY Christians/Catholics is different than founded ON Catholicism.

Yeager, I'm not saying this particular issue is unconstitutional... but it does infringe on the "Freedom of religion" dealy and "seperation of church and state"...
-SW

easymo · « **Reply #9 on:** June 26, 2002, 06:26:36 PM »

My only complaint about the word God, is that it drives us into a monotheistic corner. The word God literally means something different to each individual. The founders definitely had varying views on which God. I wish they had used the Roman example, as they did on so many other matters, and written the word Gods.

Thrawn · « **Reply #10 on:** June 26, 2002, 06:27:31 PM »

When you outlaw the pledge of allegance, only outlaws will pledge allegance.

john9001 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 26, 2002, 06:29:14 PM »

why don't we change it to "one nation , without god"??

would that make you happy?

Kieran · « **Reply #12 on:** June 26, 2002, 06:38:50 PM »

...some would argue we've already become a Godless nation...

Eagler · « **Reply #13 on:** June 26, 2002, 06:56:12 PM »

...some would argue we've already become a Godless nation...

if this board is any indication, I don't think there is an argument

Thrawn · « **Reply #14 on:** June 26, 2002, 07:03:45 PM »

*sneef*