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Offline Sandman

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« on: June 26, 2002, 09:51:29 PM »
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Lawmakers also said they would push for a constitutional amendment authorizing the words "under God" if the Supreme Court doesn't reverse the decision barring the pledge in public schools.


Next... they'll be amending the first amendment. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2002, 10:20:10 PM »
Sandman we need to fire you!  Go live in Cuba where nobody will ask you say God......  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2002, 10:26:53 PM »
Oh... so you're all for the legislative branch mucking around the Constitution every time they disagree with the judicial branch?

They've been tryin' this same stupid toejame for years because the court says that it's okay to burn a flag in anger.

Sheesh... Grun... you missed the point.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2002, 10:43:50 PM »
Well I dont think I missed the point, you missed it.

America hates this decision, pure and simple. The negative reaction even here in the Bay Area is overwhelming, nobody is saying anything good about it.  I think that's driving you nuts.

As for flag burning.....

Anyone who burns the US flag, especially if they are a citizen or resident, should be arrested and shot on the spot. I find flag burning intollerable.
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2002, 10:44:33 PM »
we need to throw California out of the Union.
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2002, 10:55:27 PM »
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Well I dont think I missed the point, you missed it.

America hates this decision, pure and simple. The negative reaction even here in the Bay Area is overwhelming, nobody is saying anything good about it.  I think that's driving you nuts.

As for flag burning.....

Anyone who burns the US flag, especially if they are a citizen or resident, should be arrested and shot on the spot. I find flag burning intollerable.


Nope... still missed it.
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2002, 11:03:53 PM »
Yeah, I guess I did.... :rolleyes:

You talked of checks and balances before, and now you will see them in action.

Don't you realize how outrageous and anti-American way of life this decision is?

What if two federal judges made slavery legal in 9 states, would you be so outraged if the Senate voted 99-0 in disagreement.


In that case would you say this?

"Oh... so you're all for the legislative branch mucking around the Constitution every time they disagree with the judicial branch?"
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2002, 11:15:22 PM »
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Yeah, I guess I did.... :rolleyes:

You talked of checks and balances before, and now you will see them in action.

Don't you realize how outrageous and anti-American way of life this decision is?

What if two federal judges made slavery legal in 9 states, would you be so outraged if the Senate voted 99-0 in disagreement.


In that case would you say this?

"Oh... so you're all for the legislative branch mucking around the Constitution every time they disagree with the judicial branch?"



Well... to do that, the legislative branch would first have to repeal the 14th Amendment.

Did you sleep through high school civics?
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2002, 11:21:59 PM »
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Well... to do that, the legislative branch would first have to repeal the 14th Amendment.

Did you sleep through high school civics?



Did you?  Abolition of slavery was the 13th.... :p
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2002, 11:25:56 PM »
True... but to make the law would violate the 14th. :P

I've had enough sparring, Grun.
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2002, 11:29:29 PM »
Sandman you left wing whacko... :)
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2002, 11:34:10 PM »
ITS ABOUT TIME that this ruling came out.. I was sick as a school kid to have to acknowledge someone ELSES imaginary friend.. by saying 'one nation under god' .. god has NO business in our government. and before you spew the oh-so tired 'we were founded by christians'.. don't embarrass yourself. we weren't.


as for flag burning.. ive already posted about the rednecks who would beat a flag burner in the streets but have a half ripped, soiled and faded US flag on their camaro.
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2002, 11:48:27 PM »
"Oh... so you're all for the legislative branch mucking around the Constitution every time they disagree with the judicial branch? "


That's why the constitution CAN be amended.  It was designed to be flexible to change with the times.   The Constitution wasn't supposed to be some sort of sacred, fixed, inflexible system of government.  It can change, has changed, and will further change with the times.

IMO the separation of Church and State doesn't and shouldn't apply to "God".   "God" is a indeed symbol of spirituality and christian beliefs in general, but is not representative of any single church.   If the phrase was "one Catholic nation, under God".....then there'd be a problem.    

That said I don't really care about that phrase in the Pledge...it was added in the 1950's anyhow.  Take it or leave makes no difference to me, either way the Pledge still means the same thing.

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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2002, 12:00:07 AM »
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"Oh... so you're all for the legislative branch mucking around the Constitution every time they disagree with the judicial branch? "


That's why the constitution CAN be amended.  It was designed to be flexible to change with the times.   The Constitution wasn't supposed to be some sort of sacred, fixed, inflexible system of government.  It can change, has changed, and will further change with the times.

IMO the separation of Church and State doesn't and shouldn't apply to "God".   "God" is a indeed symbol of spirituality and christian beliefs in general, but is not representative of any single church.   If the phrase was "one Catholic nation, under God".....then there'd be a problem.    

That said I don't really care about that phrase in the Pledge...it was added in the 1950's anyhow.  Take it or leave makes no difference to me, either way the Pledge still means the same thing.

J_A_B


Whoa... The Constitution may be modified, but it's hardly flexible. Constitutional amendments are hard to do and there's a reason for it.
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2002, 12:36:49 AM »
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..why is it when yah need a terrorist suicide bomber, yah can never find one?
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