Author Topic: Religious Freedom Upheld...in Florida? (Read 485 times)

midnight Target · « **on:** July 01, 2002, 11:53:17 AM »

I'm surprised this hasn't been batted around the O-club yet. This Woman has won the right to wear her veil in a drivers license picture.

Florida? Go figure!

Ripsnort · « **Reply #1 on:** July 01, 2002, 12:03:57 PM »

Give it a couple years, a few US sucide bombings, she'll lose her rights again.

Eagler · « **Reply #2 on:** July 01, 2002, 12:18:38 PM »

we have stupid judges here too ...

how retarded is this? talk about the phrase "they all look alike" ..

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 01, 2002, 12:58:21 PM »

She has not won the right to wear it in the photo, the judge simply ruled that she can proceed with legal proceedings regarding the issue and refused to throw out her lawsuit.

I can't see her winning this fight. Could she get a passport with this photo? I certainly hope not. I don't think that Florida is violating her right to the persuit of happiness or freedom of speech by not letting her drive an automobile. Let her walk or ride a bike. The person that screwed up and let her get a license with a veil in the first place should get canned. Would they let someone with a ski mask on get a license? I bet I can find some religion somewhere that forbids strangers from seeing my face too.

Nifty · « **Reply #4 on:** July 01, 2002, 01:04:44 PM »

from just her eyes...

what a damned waste they make their women cover their faces.

however. when I see something like that... I get the feeling she's about to flip out, kill a lot of people and say "QUAH!"

Eagler · « **Reply #5 on:** July 01, 2002, 01:11:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Nifty
from just her eyes...

what a damned waste they make their women cover their faces.

however. when I see something like that... I get the feeling she's about to flip out, kill a lot of people and say "QUAH!"

hmph, I get the feeling she's about to belly dance

fd ski · « **Reply #6 on:** July 01, 2002, 01:15:06 PM »

there is an afgan girl at my workplace. She doesn't wear any of the funny stuff, but her brother won't allow her to date anyone who isn't afgan. That's a shame, cause she is one of the hottest chicks i've ever met.

What Nifty said.

koala · « **Reply #7 on:** July 01, 2002, 01:23:50 PM »

She doesn't have a "right" to a driver's license. None of us do. If she doesn't want her religious "rights" to be violated, then she's free to not get a driver's license. Simple.

She won't win this case, thankfully.

Fatty · « **Reply #8 on:** July 01, 2002, 01:32:34 PM »

If she's hardcore fundamentalist, then what the heck is she doing leaving the house unescorted, much less driving.

Charon · « **Reply #9 on:** July 01, 2002, 01:45:53 PM »

Hey Ski, her brother not letting her date non-afgans puts you half way in the driver's seat. Unless, that's just what she told YOU

Charon

Hangtime · « **Reply #10 on:** July 01, 2002, 02:27:58 PM »

"hey, babe, wanna go do some car bombin?"

...or, how not to proposition the afgan babe while her brothers in the room.

"hey, babe, wanna go do some car bombin?"

..acceptable pick up line for the afgan babe if yer a Marine and the resta yer squaddies are in the room, eyeballing with malicious intent the babe's scurvy lookin brother.

Leslie · « **Reply #11 on:** July 01, 2002, 02:31:59 PM »

I had no idea operating a motor vehicle was a civil right...always thought it was a privilege. Well, anyway...

Freedom of religion?

I must say, I was unaware driving a car had anything to do with religion...well, maybe in some parts of the country it does, hehe. However, freedom to practice one's religion is in the 1st Amendment of our Constitution, and should be upheld. Congress shall make no laws respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free excercise thereof.

The important thing here is the Moslem woman's constitutional rights are being upheld, as they should be. Wearing the veil is part of her religion, and her religious convictions prohibit revealing her face to strange men. Our courts have misinterpreted the 1st Amendment for many years now, and I, for one, am glad to see the pendulum swinging back to the interpretation and intent of our founding fathers... that being the state, in this case the Florida License Bureau, has no business discriminating against someone because of their religion.

I'm glad to see this happening, because, to continue and expand on this line of thought, it very well could be a landmark decision by the courts setting a new precedent for getting religion back into our schools, where it has been under attack for so long now. This makes a good case for having a special time set aside during the school day, where students who wish, may be free to exercise their religious convictions without interference by the state. After all, the state has been violating the 1st Amendment in our schools for so long now, maybe it's time to take it to task for its unconstitional stance. And this Florida ruling may be just the thing to get the ball rolling.

It's kinda ironic in a way, that a woman of the Moslem faith should be the one to set things right, especially in these times...and especially considering the ACLU, of all people, is helping her out. I'm all for the court's ruling on the driver license issue, and hope and pray the thinking behind it, as I've interpreted it, is expanded to all our public institutions.

Les

Ripsnort · « **Reply #12 on:** July 01, 2002, 02:34:13 PM »

Bravo, nice post Les!

midnight Target · « **Reply #13 on:** July 01, 2002, 02:55:48 PM »

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where students who wish, may be free to exercise their religious convictions without interference by the state.

Poppycock! Students are free to practice their religious convictions now. The school is the entity that cannot practice religion. Sounds like you've been Rushinated and Limbaughized.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #14 on:** July 01, 2002, 03:00:19 PM »

In order to set aside time for religious whatever in schools, you'd have to either a) get rid of an hour or so of classes, b) build every form of church/religious house around schools, or c) send their tulips home and let them pray at will at home.

For some reason, choice c sounds the most logical.

Why do we need to put religion into schools? Shouldn't it be the parents instilling those values into their kids?
-SW