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Offline fdiron

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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2001, 06:29:00 PM »
Who said something about real World War II pilots running when outnumbered.  Theres hundreds perhaps thousands of cases where pilots have been outnumbered and still come out as the victors.

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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2001, 07:16:00 PM »
zygote ive dived into fights already in progress a few times but I would generally leave them to it if its 2 on 1 or more.Mainly because if you do shoot it down those same 2 guys will continue to shoot the wreckage and take the kill anyhow,not worth the loss of height or E.But there are times when i dont care how many are chasing, like its a clear oppertunity, eg the enemy is slow and stalling or the other guys are so useless they cant hit a barn door  :)
Also if its a nik it DIES!! and besides it  NEEDS 3 or more to catch the damn thing  :)

as for running then reversing back into the fight when advantage turns, hell thats what every p51 I see that comes in from alt does.I hate it but what is their option? reverse too early and they'll generally die.
frustrating? yep. dishonourable? er.. nope. sound judgement? yep.tad dull? YEP.  :)

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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2001, 07:43:00 PM »
Scores for Zygotes whine:

5.7
5.1
5.5
6.3 (from the Romanian judge)
5.3

Overall a good subject, has technical merit but just lacked a certain something in the presentation.  Needs more ooompf to score highly...

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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2001, 07:44:00 PM »
"There are only two kinds of pilots up there: Bastards and suckers..."


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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2001, 10:01:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Rude:
Don't worry Deja...

I'm afraid this thread was at best a small attempt to get attention.

Cyas Up!  :)

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Boy I wi9sh you could have seen Tac's world class rant in the MA this afternoon. The P-38 ..on and on and on... blaa blaaa. At one point he stated he couldnt understand why the p-51 pilots complained enough about their precious AC and HTC fixed it, but NOONE cares about the P-38.. I told him he gets my vote for whine of the week. He was really good.

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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2001, 10:23:00 PM »
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Originally posted by AKWabbit:
"There are only two kinds of pilots up there: Bastards and suckers..."


Wab


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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2001, 04:19:00 AM »
Your all bastards except Hazed, who has some moral fabric.

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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2001, 07:32:00 AM »
Theres nothing more lame then seeing 1 guy persued buy 6 enemies.. i dont care if its my team or enemy, its lame none the less.

Unless of course its a any Nazi AC, La7, or a N1k2. What am i thinking, thats 90% of the MA..  :o

As far as bouncing, or using hit and recovery tactics id say thats the most intelligent way to fight.

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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2001, 08:57:00 AM »
Ok, I apoligize, i'm probably wrong although I still refuse to dive onto some poor bastard who's fighting more n 2 enemy (less its N1K).

I suppose I just gotta fly higher yes?


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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2001, 09:04:00 AM »
"I still refuse to dive onto some poor bastard who's fighting more n 2 enemy (less its N1K)"

 Nothing wrong with that at all  :)  But if it is a N1K2 down there it's a mandatory gang bang. It says so even in the AH readme.txt

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« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2001, 09:07:00 AM »
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Who said something about real World War II pilots running when outnumbered. Theres hundreds perhaps thousands of cases where pilots have been outnumbered and still come out as the victors. fdiron  

They did it all the time, every day and every side. Particularly when seperated from the rest of the flight/squadron. Though, in situations like a fighter sweep, where a specific mission objective wasn't at stake (protect or shoot down the bombers, etc.), not engaging was a habit mentioned frequently (they didn't see us, we kept going). If you reread most of the "outnumbered stories you'll typically find two things:

1. They couldn't escape and had to fight,

2. or, they had a position of advantage at the start of the fight (e, surprise, much better plane) and the ability to disengage at will if things got really tight.

Many BoB fights took place without these conditions, but the "do or die" nature of the battle, the fact the outnumbered RAF pilots were at least engaging in squadron strength (to provide additional encouragement) and the fact that they were only a parachute away from their homeland certainly helped.  The only pilot I have read about who seemed to try and state: "I never avoided a fight, unlike other aces..." was Stanford Tuck, who spent most of the war in a POW camp (a little too much recreational strafing for no strategic value).

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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2001, 09:20:00 AM »
Who cares what happened in WWII, its irrelivant here.

This is AH.

Some people would like to enjoy the game. 2 vrs 1 is unavoidable, exceptable even. But when you got a train of people chasing someone, its unsportman like and discusting.


Going higher is no good zygote, youll find the same thing up there but itll be BnZ attacks from 3 enemies insted of having TnBers on your 6 for 25 miles.

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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2001, 09:28:00 AM »
Hmmmm Real life where LIFE is on the line vs. a sim where it isn't. Nuff said  

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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2001, 03:29:00 PM »
Arlo, where'd you get that smiley from dammit, thats not an AH smiley!!!!  WTF AW people have no fediddlein respect.

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« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2001, 04:12:00 PM »
OH MY GOD! HE WAS SERIOUS!

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