Bush's Environmental Policy ....sad or funny?

[midnight Target]

The water is treated with activated charcoal to improve taste, Potassium permanganate to control plant growth, liquid chlorine for control of bacteria and Hydrated lime to reduce acidity. We are talking about thousands of tons of these chemicals.

Suspended solids in this raw water are filtered through a sand filter at the Dalecarlia Treatment Plant. To make the solids sink to the bottom, aluminum sulfate, or alum is introduced into the water. The solids attach themselves to the chemical and eventually sink to the bottom of the holding basins.

The Corps of Engineers (Corps) drains four sediment basins approximately 22 times a year, and the sediment is removed. This is done by bringing in huge fire hoses and/or bull dozers which push the sediment into a major national historic waterway---none other then the Chesapeake & Ohio Canal which is a national historic park managed by the National Park Service. The word managed is used very loosely here.

The toxic laden sediment (sludge) created by this processing is flushed back into the Potomac and smack onto the only known Potomac spawning grounds of the endangered shortnose sturgeon. Only in the nation's capital could such clear, repeated and outrageous violation of major environmental laws be condoned.

Miko wrote
I never said that the sediment in question was sand and clay. I made a note that I knew of some cases when harmless sand and clay (bricks) were classified as toxic waste by EPA

but before that Miko wrote They take sediment (sand, clay) from the river, reclassify it as "toxic sluge" and dump it right back.
The water separated this way is used for drinking, goes through the purification plant and returns to the same river separately unless all the population drinks locally but drives over the watershed to take a piss - then it goes to the different river.
Just as I suspected - a whole load of BS dumped on us by enviro-nazis...

- No mention of another river or another case?

Obviously this is not just "sand and clay" as you said it was.  
And, Miko, this is definitely not a case of Environmental Nazi's, as you can see. It is a case of Washington and its environs getting a sweet deal instead of acting according to the law.

[miko2d]

Guilty as charged -  I did look right at my own post and missed that I did specifically mention "sand and clay" twice!... Time to get my brain tuned
 I guess I was looking at what I wrote but saw what I ment to say. I talked to a guy who was manually setting moveable font (mostly ancient technology now) and he told me that just for that reason of thinking instead of just reading they get much higher accuracy setting a book in unknown foreign language then in English.

 Well, I am sure you understand that I ment stuff that was extracted was put back - most of it sand and clay and whatever else that was in the river to start with. Also article I saw mentioned only that some alum was introduced - but I already knew that it was natural (at least occuring in nature - the one they used could have well been synthesised) non-toxic and almost insoluble in water. As far as I know, it is a catalyst and used in miniscule quantities without being consumed. It may actually help keep the river clean when it ends up there because it will continue to act and cause suspended dirt to fall to the bottom as well.
 I know abour alum because it's the same stuff that I use to treat nicks after shaving. Note - I shave with a straight razor which allows me not to pollute environment with disposable razor blades or dull electric razor heads. Let me hear some kudos here

 Chlorine and lyme could not be that bad because we drink water with them and fill pools with it and our acquarium fish lives in it just fine. I hope potassium permanganate is not too bad. Anyway, clorine and potassium permanganate  go into the drinking water that gets separated most likely after filtering - not into the sluge that gets filtered out.

 And while lyme probably reacts and forms sediment that does go into sluge, it must be some kind of stuff that occures naturally too - as water (which is really a weak acid due to CO2 in it) and its dissolved minerals constantly react with soil, stone etc. in the course of it's flow.
 I bet that wet sludge free of toxic stuff that is alowed to accumulate for two weeks sprouts the whole variety of swamp life which stinks to high haven - but that is not the same category of "toxic waste" as, say PCB, radioactive stuff, ets.

 miko

[capt. apathy]

Actually chlorine is extremely toxic. The reason they put it in water IS TO KILL ANY LIVING THING that may be in the water.  

Basically the reason some cities put chlorine in your drinking water is that they figure the disease is worse than the poison, so they try to balance it, just enough to kill the germs and hopefully not enough to kill you.

They put fluoride in some water too, also extremely poisonous, just because they put it in your city water doesn’t mean it’s necessarily good for you to drink it.  Hell dentists used to (some still do) give you fillings with mercury in them, one of the most toxic substances there is.

As far as germs in rotting debris those are necessary to break down toxins, swamps and other areas of rotting sludge are actually filters cleaning water before it goes downstream.

[Eagler]

Nope booby baby here

[midnight Target]

You know, this is the second time in the last few days that Eagler and I have seen eye to eye. So now I'm wondering Eagler? Were you upgraded to 1.10 too?

[Eagler]

Originally posted by midnight Target
You know, this is the second time in the last few days that Eagler and I have seen eye to eye. So now I'm wondering Eagler? Were you upgraded to 1.10 too?

nah, gonna stay 1.09 as it matches me plane

actually ran home at lunch and loaded it up after I d/l cd burned it at work this morning

great looking patch, but way to laggy to play right now

[Thrawn]

Geeze, this board is like a ghost town.

Wonder where everyone went,  

[john9001]

so this 'toxic polution" is from water treatment plants?

easy fix , let people drink untreated water,= no polution from the plants ,= fewer people,= less polution = more fish

did algore know about this and when did he know it??

[Pyton]

A good book for everybody, especially the environmentally hysterical, is Bjorn Lomborg's "Skeptical Environmentalist".

You mean the book that tries to use statistical methods to debunk all kinds of enviromental worries (especially the global warming)? The one which is slammed in about every scientific magazine by enviromental scientists and statistical mathematicians. It is good reading in illustrating how you can find whatever you want in statistics if you analyze them slightly wrong while superficially looking good. However as serious book it is appaling.