A-20G best plane introduced into AH!

[Sachs]

I have to agree this is by far the best plane ever introduced into AH.  I am a LW guy but man I find myself in love with this big twin.  If we ever get anymore twins thats what I will  be flying. I love the 110 but man this thing is a hog.  I hope it keeps its values as well.  The boston flown right is just as fun too!!  30 cals suck but u can deack a field in it!

S! HTC was worth the wait for these two planes IMO.

[ra]

The A-20G seems like it would make for an awesome below dar field attack plane.  8 500lbrs, lots of guns, good speed and climb.  I wouldn't want to dogfight in it though, the Me-110 has it beat in that respect.

I can't wait for the Tu-2 and the Beaufighter, these twins are fun.  

ra

[gatso]

Big big thumbs up here too.

Best twin heavy out there (at the moment) by far. Bring on the rest of the big twins ASAP!

(B-25H/J, A-26, Beaufighter, More Mossies, ME410, HS129, that Dutch thing that look like a bug and all the rest   )

Gatso

[Neidy]

Yeah I'm glad we got the Havoc (A-20).

Alls we need now is a couple of versions of B-25's.
I know someone that was at Hickam Field on Dec-7-1941. He survived and flew B-25's over Burma and all that after the attack for the rest of the war. Real talkative guy he is

DavNeidy

[superpug1]

Last night I was in a boston duelin with some zekes and spits. I didnt get a kill but I messed em up pretty bad.

[udet]

i wish we could fly formations with the a20... imagine a formation strafing an enemy airfield with planes taking off. the heavier forward armament should make it very effective.

[eskimo2]

Originally posted by udet
i wish we could fly formations with the a20... imagine a formation strafing an enemy airfield with planes taking off. the heavier forward armament should make it very effective.

I saw one.  I don't know how he got it, but I saw a A-20 with 2 tag-alongs last night.  I didn't think a trio was available either.

eskimo

[LtHans]

The Boston III has a formation option, but the A20 hard nosed version doesn't.

Are you sure it was the A20 and not some Boston IIIs?

[RRAM]

I think boston also get A20 tag.

And yes, you can straffe in it with your wingmans...its tough to get a proper pass, tho...the wingies simply turn too slow

[OSCAR]

...the 110 is a hog?  maybe with one eng shot out....  But totally agree that the A20 is a kick to use...especially with 8x500's on it. Still the rear gun is only slightly more usefull than the one on the 110.

[Karnak]

What make the A-20G the best addition?  I can think of 7 other aircraft that do essentially the same job, and 5 of those do it better IMHO.

The P-47D-25 and 30: more guns, 2,500lbs of bombs and 10 rockets, faster, better climb rate and better diving.
The P-38L: More ammo, 2,000bs of bombs and 10 rockets, faster, better climb rate, better diving and better turning.
The Mosquito Mk VI: 2,000lbs of bombs or 1,000lbs of bombs and 8 rockets, 4 Hispano Mk II 20mm cannon with lots of ammo, faster, better climb rate, better diving and better turning.
The Bf110G-2: 1,000kg of bombs, 4 210mm rockets, 2-4 20mm cannon, 2 30mm cannon, faster, better climb rate, better diving and better turning.
The Typhoon Mk Ib: 2,000lbs of bombs or 8 rockets, 4 Hispano Mk II 20mm cannon with lots of ammo, much faster, better climb rate, better diving and better turning.

Don't get me wrong, the A-20G is a great addition, I just don't see what makes it best.

(Bf110C-4b and Il-2M are the other two aircraft that do the same job, but not as well as the A-20G)

[Staga]

Yeah but A-20 has style

[RRAM]

Originally posted by Karnak

Don't get me wrong, the A-20G is a great addition, I just don't see what makes it best.

exactly my point. Useful, yes. Neat, yes. Good adition, of course.

But "the best"?...the best twin engined jabo (and by extension, best jabo) in AH is the Bf110G2. Nothing can beat those guns, 2200lbs of bombs and 4 rockets, in a plane which turns, climbs and accelerates quite well for a heavy plane.

P38 has more rockets and almost same bombload but much less hard-hitting weapons. it is a much more survivable plane to fly in, but it can inflict much less damage.

the A20G has much better rear defence than the 110g2 and is  tougher too, but the forward firing guns are far from being as powerful as in the messerschmitt, and the Havoc can't really stay in a close fight against the german plane.

THe mossie has similar maneouverability and bombload and also very hard hitting weapons, with 8 rockets, too (tho I think the 210mm ones hit much harder than the british rockets). But the 110's 30mms still give it the edge IMO.



In one-engined fighters the P47 is the king of the jabos...but one-engined fighters will never qualify as better attack planes than twin engined planes, at least for me. Two engines give you twice the options to bring you home than one...even if that one belongs to "the beast"

 Also I can't forget that the P47D30 with all the jabo optiions in AH is a fantasy plane .

[Karnak]

PRAM,

Yeah, I know what you mean about two engines.  I've brought home many a one engined Mossie.

In my tests of twin engined Jabo aircraft I decided it went like this in terms of absolute destruction capability:

Bf110G-2
P-38L
Mosquito Mk VI

It seems that the Bf110G-2 wins because it has both cannon and bombs/rockets.  The P-38L relies almost entirely on its bombs and rockets asd .50s are too ineffective for straffing.  The Mossie does OK with its bombs and/or rockets and then does a good deal of trama with its cannons.

I feel that the three contenders in terms of handling go in this order:

P-38L (the only true fighter of the group)
Mosquito Mk VI
Bf110G-2

The P-38L is the only one of the three to have what I consider full fighter performance, bith the Mosquito and Bf110G-2 can act as fighters in a pinch and even give a good account of themselves in the right hands, but newbies will die quick.  Bottom line is that the P-38L is a fighter and the Mosquito Mk VI and Bf110G-2 are heavy fighters.

All of those were quite usable though and I think it is mostly a matter of taste which you pick.

Now with the A-20G in the mix I think it goes like this in the first category:

Bf110G-2 / A-20G (4,000lbs of bombs do count, but no rockets and weak straffing)
P-38L
Mosquito Mk VI

In the second category it falls out like this:

P-38L
Mosquito Mk VI
Bf110G-2
A-20G (way, WAY back from the others as its slower, climbs worse, rolls worse, turns worse, has slower acceleration and has a much lower top speed before structural failure)

[tofri]

Yoo, really a great plane. A good bombload and a stable gun platform.

And its a hard plane, almost indestructable.
I got seven pings from the fieldack, before my front gear went yellow
At that time there was no ack left anymore:D

If it would have better guns, I would fly it more often.

But there is nothing as the 30mm in my favourite Bf110G2.