Author Topic: The Bourne Identity (Read 356 times)

Gunthr · « **on:** July 05, 2002, 11:56:51 PM »

Surprizingly good spy-type thriller movie. Creatively shot. Good casting too.

Kratzer · « **Reply #1 on:** July 06, 2002, 12:20:57 AM »

I agree - excellent film.

Fatty · « **Reply #2 on:** July 06, 2002, 09:44:40 AM »

You guys must not have read it. I was very disappointed.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #3 on:** July 06, 2002, 10:22:36 AM »

No movie lives up to the book with the possible exception of Lord of the Rings. I can't watch any of the Clancy films because of it.

I hadn't read the Bourne Identity, so I actually enjoyed the movie. I thought it was well done and well cast. The German gal that played opposite Matt Damon moved me.

AKDejaVu

Fatty · « **Reply #4 on:** July 06, 2002, 10:33:33 AM »

It's not so much didn't live up to, the story was completely changed. Unrecognizable. Even the cheesy 80s version was better I thought.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #5 on:** July 06, 2002, 10:39:19 AM »

Fatty... I present "Sum of all Fears". I won't watch it.

Like I said... I didn't read the book (Bourne Identity)... I liked the movie.

AKDejaVu

Fatty · « **Reply #6 on:** July 06, 2002, 11:02:23 AM »

I guess, but for the most part I'm usually okay with movie adaptations. I went in figuring (even being prewarned) it might stray a lot, but it was far beyond what I could have ever imagined.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #7 on:** July 06, 2002, 11:12:42 AM »

I do know what you are talking about fatty. For me.. "sum of all fears" was the same. Not even close to the original storyline.

It does have a habbit of biasing one's oppinion of a movie. Such is the curse of reading books;)

AKDejaVu

Gunthr · « **Reply #8 on:** July 06, 2002, 11:43:53 AM »

Bingo, Fatty. I didn't read the book

So I wasn't focused on that disappointing departure. I don't know if I would go out of my way to see it again, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Quite a bit more than Sum of All Anxieties.

capt. apathy · « **Reply #9 on:** July 06, 2002, 03:38:50 PM »

Clancy's books especially don't lend themselves to movies. too much detail to cover, even one of his very necessary techno rants would take up the whole film, so they just hit the action points which really aren't where Clancy shines, his art is in the detail.

btw am I the only one who thinks he's gone downhill lately. his first books where awsome, but it seems to me that ever since 'clear and present danger' he's trying more to just crank out another book, and writing it to be adapted for a movie. I don't even look forward to his releases anymore, nothing he's written receintly even compares with 'red storm rising' or 'cardinal in the kremlin'

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #10 on:** July 06, 2002, 05:43:00 PM »

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Originally posted by capt. apathy
btw am I the only one who thinks he's gone downhill lately. his first books where awsome, but it seems to me that ever since 'clear and present danger' he's trying more to just crank out another book, and writing it to be adapted for a movie. I don't even look forward to his releases anymore, nothing he's written receintly even compares with 'red storm rising' or 'cardinal in the kremlin'

I haven't enjoyed much from him since "Without Remourse".

Seems like he's trying to make political statements these days. I enjoyed portions of Rainbow Six... but overall he's just gotten rediculous.

AKDejaVu

midnight Target · « **Reply #11 on:** July 06, 2002, 09:03:19 PM »

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Originally posted by capt. apathy

btw am I the only one who thinks he's gone downhill lately. his first books where awsome, but it seems to me that ever since 'clear and present danger' he's trying more to just crank out another book, and writing it to be adapted for a movie. I don't even look forward to his releases anymore, nothing he's written receintly even compares with 'red storm rising' or 'cardinal in the kremlin'

His last book sucked! I forced myself to read it, and it became semi interesting at about page 800. He has become a caricature artist. Lets politics get in the way of the story now.

Sikboy · « **Reply #12 on:** July 06, 2002, 09:14:40 PM »

When I watched this movie I thought "god I hope the James Bond folks are watching this" The integration of the music into the movie was much better than the most recent bond movies, and the dialogue was much better as well (with the notable exception of Goldeneye, which I thought was one of the better bond movies, and by far the best of the Brosnen movies).

I've never read Ludlum as most modern fiction makes my eyes bleed, but I liked this story well enough. I would have liked them to spend more time where he is hunted by the other touchstone dudes. But it was pretty cool.

Clancey... He can't give up a charactor. His books get more and more awkward as he crams more characters into them. Each book introduces several more, and brings over several from previous books. I gave up after "Dept of Honor" when the dragged that poor Portigee dude all the way to Saipan just so Clarke and Ding had a place to sleep

That said, Red Storm Rising was the best WWIII book ever written (allthough for a purely theoretical exercise "The Third World War August 1984" was pretty cool, if you could get past the blatant policy demands)

I don't know, as I said I just gave up on him.

-Sikboy

Daff · « **Reply #13 on:** July 06, 2002, 09:21:20 PM »

"Clancey... He can't give up a charactor. His books get more and more awkward as he crams more characters into them."

I agree. While I did enjoy ihs political dramas, the last one, Dragon and the Bear made me give up on him. The characters were *all* pathetic. Ryan being more stupid than in 'Executive Orders', pathetic attempts at being erotic and describing the chinese like they were 50 years ago. (And most unforgivable, was that the combat sequence at the last 20 pages were predictable, un-engaging and boring).

Daff

midnight Target · « **Reply #14 on:** July 08, 2002, 11:30:04 AM »

Well Sikboy, I must say you nailed the Clancy problem down. I was wondering how the same 12 people could be running the world all those years.

As for Ludlum, IMHO don't bother. He comes up with pretty good stories, but his dialog is .... well painful. His favorite descriptive tool is to use the conversation of the characters to describe the characters.
Like this - "Well my 6'2" blue eyed former hockey playing friend. Would you like to go to dinner, or practice for your second degree black belt?"

That is only a slight exaggeration.