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Offline AKIron

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Humm...PIZZA, is this what we ordered?
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2002, 03:41:36 PM »
As AKWabbit posted in another thread, he has written an app that will rescale the terrain elevation. If Hitech sees fit it'll likely be lowered.
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2002, 05:22:20 PM »
all you squeakers, sit down and shut the hell up.  Don't squeak cause you don't like the map.

You know what? I didn't like mindano but tough luck.

Shut your pie hole and stop it.

And as a matter of fact i've never absolutly loved the AKs (don't take that wrong i don't hate the aks either their a good squad)

I have my qualms with the map and theres things I love, i put up with it.  I know the AKs worked hard over this and the work payed off, they don't deserve this negative critisizm (sp?) because the map doesn't exactly fit your furballing ways or whatever it is doing to annoy you.  I happen to think it's the best map ever made.  Don't whine and squeak to get it taken outta cycle cause you want it that way, other people like the map, you wanna ruin it for them?

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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2002, 06:31:52 PM »
So far I’ve only had a couple hours on the new map and 1.10.  I haven’t been plugged into it for the last 72 hours or so since it’s been out but I find it hard to believe that’s enough time to take in the full, how do you say, ambiance ;).

Give it some time if there is something wrong it will be corrected.  As for the map, I have to say, I love the canyons!  Saved my butt at least twice yesterday.  Hell it takes stall fighting to whole new level.  The terrain texture, well, it appears someone has figured out how to make the camouflage useful without taking away the icons.  I find it harder to get a bearing on a lot more aircraft when they’re set against the ground.

It’s really hard to muster an argument of any sort of historical terrain in the MA as Mindanao was a good example of that.  Real life geographical locations seldom have any sort of three-way equality in strategic placement unless we map Kansas.  Wow, that would be fun to fly in!

Designing something that is visually pleasing, strategically equal, as well as a challenging to fight in is a huge task.  I’m by no means an AK cheerleader but I don’t think they need to be ridiculed for taking on and completing something as time consuming as this map obviously was.

Relax, take a deep breath, and then get to work on making something you believe would suit the MA better. Or at least phrase it in the form of a suggestion or a question instead of chest pounding.  Hey, I think I just saw something about that on the BBS about submitting questions as well.  Who’d a thunk! :)

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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2002, 06:52:04 PM »
I don't know about you guys but I don't like this map.  Its huge and it is going to take forever to win a war.  Most bases a high alt. and when you encounter enemies they are usually higher than you.  CV's are almost useless since you pretty much can't use the LVT's..etc.

I understand the the AK's spent hard working time on this map and I feel bad saying I do not like their map.  But hey its my opinion and if you are just going to call people that disagree with you names then go ahead.

I wish we can just go to another one of the regular maps.

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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2002, 07:25:18 PM »
Well, I hoped the post might stur up some intelligent thought. Reflect on what is happening here please. We have a totally different game to play now. Is it the game that we've all grown to appreciate, or is it something that none of us envisioned or expected?

As a former game developer, I know how much work it takes to get any sort of game out the door. Yes, the AK's and HTC did a lot of work to get 1.10 into our little mitts, but what sort of market analysis was done before everyone began the march towards 1.10?

Was any analysis done to figure out what features were working or not working? Was there any any analysis of gameplay issues and how they would be affected by quadrupling the arena space? Was there any sort of survey questionaire distributed to paying members? I didn't see anything.

"Aces High" is obviously a work in progress. There have been numerous minor upgrades that have evolved the game through 1.09. But, 1.10 is a "new" game. Suddenly, it's not the game I signed up to play. So I'm a bit upset over that fact.

Also, for those who never "developed" a game, the Beta testing cycle can last anywhere from 3 to 6 months. Most developers hire a crew of in-house beta testers to kick the tires on a game by playing the game to death. They find bugs. They find gameplay issues. They find art and concept issues. And they complain and squeak and moan about this and that about a game to the level artists, producers, and programmers. They do this so that the public and you guys out there can have a fun and relatively bug free game to play. You could say they are professional whiners.

HTC has in essence, released a new game to us. And we are the defacto Beta testers whether we ever wanted to be or not. So people are going to whine. Expect it. Whine back. Most of you already have. And as HTC Beta testers, we don't get paid. We pay HTC. Seems a bit strange to me, but life is strange.

Anyway, I just feel rather blindsided by 1.10 and the release of the "new" game.

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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2002, 07:31:09 PM »
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Well, I hoped the post might stur up some intelligent thought.




a stupid post like this creating intelligent thought?


that is highly unlikely.


Oh, BTW, talk by yourself when you say "I don't like the pizza map". Many of us do.

So stop the demagogic crap, and if you are to squeak, at least do it in a clear and clean way. YOU don't like it. Talk about yourself.

Thank you.



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HTC has in essence, released a new game to us. And we are the defacto Beta testers whether we ever wanted to be or not.



Let me see...hummmmm......

It's called the same way, it has the same basis, it has the same rules and it has the same taste as always has had...it still is the same old game of flying a plane and killing other's using ACM. It still is the same AH I've known since the last days of beta (when I arrived here).

In 1.10 it has changed the bomber system and added some more strategic stuff, which is always a welcome addition. Not to mention 9 new outstandingly modelled planes.

So THIS is a "new game"?. lol. And you call "this" Intelligent thinking?...you must be a professional of humor, mate...


You know,in the end you summed quite well in your first post...if you don't like it you know where the door is, I guess :).
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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2002, 07:48:58 PM »
Easy on him RAM, he's blindsided.

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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2002, 07:50:26 PM »
That's great.  Sometimes I miss things with so many threads going on.

We'll see what happens.



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As AKWabbit posted in another thread, he has written an app that will rescale the terrain elevation. If Hitech sees fit it'll likely be lowered.
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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2002, 08:09:22 PM »
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Actually, overall, I don't have many problems with the map. Just one that I can think of.

The altitudes are so high that it renders alot of lower alt flying planes pretty useless. Which then limits your available planeset choices...Unless they want to fly in the cracks....or get your butt constantly kicked as you struggle not to stall or compress.

I guess what i'm saying is that the B-n-Z portion of the game is now alot more limited.

If the whole map were dropped by about 5k then I'd like it just fine.

I'd still want to see other ones, but this one would be just fine too.

I don't have any problems with the color or the shape or the strat.

Overall I think it was a pretty good job, being as large as it is....just a wee bit too high up is all.


Kanth,

Salute for expressing your opinion without coming across as a whiner expecting everything to be catered to your style.  Too bad others do not chose to do the same more often.

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« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2002, 08:30:52 PM »
Also hoped the post might stur up some not so intelligent posts...which it has.

Ah, freedom of speech...isn't it wonderful! I love a good glass of whine in the evening.

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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2002, 08:43:52 PM »
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Ah, freedom of speech...isn't it wonderful! I love a good glass of whine in the evening.


Big difference between Freedom of Speech and  Terms of Service.

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Changing alts??
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2002, 08:58:36 PM »
OH gOd no..dont change the Hi alt bases.....

"The altitudes are so high that it renders alot of lower alt flying planes pretty useless. Which then limits your available planeset choices...Unless they want to fly in the cracks....or get your butt constantly kicked as you struggle not to stall or compress. "

Ok this is funny.....11k is too high??? if it is ..maybe its time to get ouyt of your LA LA 7...I know.."it goes so slow at 25K..lololo

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Hi alt bases-----My goon goes 300mph from hi alt base to a lo alt basse capture..its SWEETTT

I love that..I also love if you arent a pretty good pilot..u cant get ur buff or ftr  in the air before u hi ta mtn at the hi alt bases..ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT

The terrain is sssssssweeeetttt

The more I play..( only hour a week)....LMFAO...the more i like this map....

KIK ASSSSS

Love BiGB

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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2002, 09:02:48 PM »
Your restaurant analogy is way, way off.
This aint a restaurant.

This is a movie, and the internet is a theater.
If you dont like the movie, you cant change it. Just walk away and watch another.

Todays showings are Aces High, WWII Online, Warbirds, and IL2 Sturmovik.

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« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2002, 05:46:14 AM »
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This is a movie, and the internet is a theater.
If you dont like the movie, you cant change it. Just walk away and watch another.

Yes I am considering just that. And so are other people I know. And just think, if enough people leave the game, you can capture base after base with no opposition whatsoever. Now doesn't that sound like a lot of fun?

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« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2002, 06:03:31 AM »
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Big difference between Freedom of Speech and  Terms of Service.


Yes, you're right about that.