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Offline CyranoAH

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« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2002, 08:17:25 AM »
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Gatt, had a flight in a Cap10 a couple of weeks ago..very nice plane :). (Didnt do any stall turns, though).
Daff


Hehe I'm currently getting my aerobatic solo in a CAP10B, and it is a bit limited in vertical maneouvers.

She can do Hammerheads... but barely, she lacks the power to do them confidently (180HP).

As of today I have practiced Standard Aileron Rolls, Loops, Spins, Hammerheads, Humpty Bumps, Immelmans, Inverted flight, and that's about it :)

The hardest thing in a CAP10B is to land her :)

Here she is:



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« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2002, 08:24:24 AM »
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Does a 110g2 have counter rotating props?  Or does it torque a specific way, sorry for such a dweb question.


Not a dweeb question, and I don't know the answer in AH - but in Warbirds the older 110 didn't counter rotate and the newer 110 did.

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« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2002, 08:34:45 AM »
Thanks turbot.  Im trying to come up with a way to revers this machine in the vertical very quickly.  I can get it around ok now, but not 'fast'  Ive got some Ideas that I want to try with throttle management.  I 'think' it torques a bit to the right, so that means I should perform the turn to the right... right?

Thanks guys

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« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2002, 12:41:02 PM »
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You dont need to do all that crap if you fly a P-38L
It will do hammerheads like on autopilot.

I do em well, remember the old ArtLaws flipping out about it.


Yes, I remember artsie.
My 190a8 got him few times in row with hammer. He obiviously didn't like it.

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« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2002, 08:10:39 PM »
I was under the impression that this was a hammerhead turn.

Straight up till about 50ias then full left rudder and right aileron. The stall horn doesnt sound and its more or less in a single plane.

heres the film http://plaza.ufl.edu/shamblin/film14hh.ahf

So is this a hammerhead or a wingover?
« Last Edit: July 10, 2002, 08:14:47 PM by Regurge »

Offline Fester'

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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2002, 06:27:02 AM »
Something that might be of interest to you twin engine flyers without a dual control throttle.

I mapped 2 functions to my stick last night.  "Shift-2" and "Shift-E"

Press the first button when entering the verticle and at 120 I chop throttle, this only chops throttle to engine 2.  Perform wing over hammerhead whatever to the right then throttle up and hit other button shift-e to give full control back to the engines.

I was hammerheading the 110g2 offline, very responsive.  If you dont re engage engine 2 the plane starts this no stall horn cartwheel, very wild ride and very easy to recover from.  Lotta rudder control on that one, makes me wish artsie was still around :)

Hope this helps

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« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2002, 07:44:53 PM »
throttling  will rotate you out of your desired  position when you finish the maneuver, In a 109 I just let airspeed drop to 30-40ais and apply enough rudder to bring the nose over 10-15 degrees, cut the throttle down to 5% and she flops over, apply 50% throttle and you can get your heading in sync with your intentions.

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« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2002, 09:39:35 PM »
110 doesn't have counter rotating props IIRC


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Offline WldThing

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« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2002, 09:39:42 PM »
A hammerhead in a 51..with the tail sliding back is not possible but it can be done in 1 of the sims out there since i was reading the combat files back in the day.  I dont do ropes too many times or even ever but i have done it before and what happens to my plane(no cutting throttle or engine cutting) is i will use my rudder to twist the plane the other way and it will snap back down and sort of pull up.

When that happens i will have to push down on the stick to regain control of the vertical diving in purpose of a hammerhead.  Correct timing is the neccesary.  I can see the con pulling up with me.  Then with the feel i guess that he has lost alot of E.  I Swing her down and by the time im 500 ft away and hes shooting at me for a vertical HO he snaps his plane down and hes ready to die.

So it comes down to practice to actually perfect a good hammerhead, every person has his own way of doing this, even though some peoples seem a lil weird :) .