Author Topic: Feedback on Malta (Read 1170 times)

Fariz · « **on:** July 14, 2002, 04:24:48 PM »

Malta was generally very good one, planes were ballanced good, it were many action and interesting fights. Probably the best TOD I participated in up to date. ~~CM's, Axis, Allies~~

keeler · « **Reply #1 on:** July 15, 2002, 12:55:30 AM »

This Frame was the best I had played

Everthing went smooth and we didnt have that bad of a lagging problem that I had been seeing In SEA

Great Job Ladies and Gentlmen

Flossy · « **Reply #2 on:** July 15, 2002, 02:17:14 AM »

I'm very glad yesterday's frame went OK (until it ended suddenly with about 15 minutes to go!) after the carry on we had last Sunday. Good to hear you enjoyed it....

Thanks to Bikekilla as the designer of this TOD!

bikekil · « **Reply #3 on:** July 15, 2002, 03:14:44 AM »

I'm very glad to hear you liked it

Many thanks to Flossy for a hard work she made to set it up so we all could fly it! Excelent job

Great job was done by side CO's - vets and newbies as well!!!

We can continue this battle in a few weeks on "Operation Hercules" if you like the idea

(few new birds for both sides included and greater numbers for LW).

Ripsnort · « **Reply #4 on:** July 15, 2002, 09:46:27 AM »

Exceptional fun! Too bad the JU88's that we were flying with got hit first

Swoop lead MAG-33 in to target, last count 'fore I was shot down we had hit no fewer than 18 buildings.

Esme · « **Reply #5 on:** July 15, 2002, 02:07:07 PM »

Hmmnn... :-} If the Axis did well in Frame 3, it was as much luck as my planning, but even more so the efforts of the pilots who flew for our side. And to the unit COs who despite my occasionally unclear orders went ahead and did something useful anyway. (I was having some probs with my flight yoke, btw, my autopilot kept cutting out, making typing difficult as I was having to steer nearly all the time).

Must admit, I've been surprised at what to me seems the extremely high casualty rate, and I do think that the scenario overall favoured the RAF slightly overmuch. But heck, them's the breaks, it made the job merely harder, not impossible.

Felt odd planning for just two hours rather than for 3... :-} Damn, I wish I had had that third hour to play with - and more fuel in those Ju88 tanks. then the Tommies wouldnt have had a clue which direction to defend against! :-) (Chuckle..) I'll adapt.

RAF, whatever the decreed outcome, you tore us apart so much that I feel you won a moral victory at the very least. I had fun, ,and hope all who took part did too.

CMs, many thanks for making these games happen for us to enjoy.

:-)

Esme

funkedup · « **Reply #6 on:** July 15, 2002, 02:39:02 PM »

I didn't fly Frame 3 but based on Frames 1 & 2 I thought it was a pretty cool setup. Nice and simple, but still pretty close to historical.

Balance is hard to judge.

AFAIK LW did not meet their registered numbers in Frames 1 & 2. And in Frame 2 they seemingly made no attempt to escort their bombers.

But even with a full roster and some kind of escort strategy, LW still would have had a difficult job. RAF knew where the LW was going to hit, RAF knew when they would hit (at least within a 60 minute window), and RAF had airfields and flak right on top of the target.

That setup almost guarantees high losses, even if everybody behaves historically. It comes down to the basic question of "Do we want to simulate milkruns, or do we want to simulate air battles?"

I think we simulated an air battle and I think LW should be proud to have done as much damage as they did under the circumstances. The sight of the whole LW armada stretching from 270 degrees to 360 degrees in Frame 1 will be a lasting memory for me.

Steven · « **Reply #7 on:** July 15, 2002, 04:08:46 PM »

I was able to get a guest spot with The Wings Of Death squadron (who are a real class act) for the 3rd frame. It looked to be a very good TOD to me. However, biggest thing I noticed was the difference in connections between the TOD on Friday and yours on Sunday. Warps were severe on Friday and some of us (me included) got stuck in "Limbo" for a while unable to exit, grab a plane, type or anything else for a while. Then with a hiccup, I was playing. I wonder why the big difference??

Flossy · « **Reply #8 on:** July 15, 2002, 04:25:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Steven
Warps were severe on Friday and some of us (me included) got stuck in "Limbo" for a while unable to exit, grab a plane, type or anything else for a while. Then with a hiccup, I was playing. I wonder why the big difference??

Possibly the difference in numbers - about twice as many in Friday TOD as we had in Sunday TOD (around 200 and 100 respectively). Friday TOD has been going longer, and the numbers have steadily grown, but the arena limit at the moment is 260, and it seems the closer it gets the the limit, the worse things get. The Sunday TOD's numbers are also rising, but it will be a while before we match Friday's numbers, I think.

Busher · « **Reply #9 on:** July 15, 2002, 11:38:29 PM »

MALTA Defense was to my mind the best TOD so far.

I all the axis pilots as well as my allied friends

And many thanx to the CM's for your efforts. It leads to a lotta fun for us!!!

Busher

Squire · « **Reply #10 on:** July 16, 2002, 01:28:04 AM »

I had a tremendous ammount of fun with it, as did my squadron.

bikekil · « **Reply #11 on:** July 16, 2002, 02:24:39 AM »

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Originally posted by Esme
Must admit, I've been surprised at what to me seems the extremely high casualty rate, and I do think that the scenario overall favoured the RAF slightly overmuch. But heck, them's the breaks, it made the job merely harder, not impossible

You are right about to chances of LW... but i took the numbers from the *registered* on thge events page so...
Initilaay i planed if at 62-48 in favour of LW forces. Life showed that the numbers were different, but i couldn't know it before

In future i'm going to e-mail EVERY squad CO and ask about expected numbers they gonna provide to avid situations like that!

Once again, it was very hard challenge for LW to met the objectives i made with that numbers but everyone who was there saw how good LW pilots were.
Probably your result is a draw (i said PROBABLY - without knowing 3rd frame results) and a draw is an fact an allied victory this time, but when you look at it in a different way, you guys did better then Allies. You ware attacking while in disadvantage and your attacks made huge damage to the island. You have proven that you have the spirit and skills !

btw. can anyone provide me some informatins about Ju-88 usage in 3rd frame?

Squire · « **Reply #12 on:** July 16, 2002, 08:06:41 AM »

I have a question re the Ju88s, how come there were only singles? I didnt see any "formations" in frame 3?

Flossy · « **Reply #13 on:** July 16, 2002, 11:31:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Squire
I have a question re the Ju88s, how come there were only singles? I didnt see any "formations" in frame 3?

I think they started off with formations, but they apparently disappeared from what I was told.... I know Esme had a formation because I joined her as a gunner after the first 30 minutes had passed; however, she turned a little tightly and they blew up.

No idea what happened to the others, but was told they blew up while the lead planes were flying straight and level.....

214thCavalier · « **Reply #14 on:** July 16, 2002, 01:23:32 PM »

I can confirm the JU88's lost there tag alongs while in level flight they literally just exploded, Mag 33 was in close attendance at the time and most of us saw it happen.