Map/Strat/Realism whiners :D , can you say......

[lazs2]

I agree with toad..  HTC came up with a good one when they put most of the worst gameplay destroyers in one sandbox to fight with each other.    There are no good plane sets in that arena other than the Battle of Britan.   They should run the BOB for a couple months straight to maybe sucker a few more people in there.    

Now if we could just keep out the CT adds in here.  Or... maybe they could advertisze in the other sims board?
lazs

[Tumor]

Laz
  If you ever have anything good to say about anything other than mindless autocybereroticselfmanipulati on as an end goal to your endevours in AH... I'll care.     But I still think your cute.

[DrDea]

CT  MA  its all the same game.Who gives a rats bellybutton where comments are posted about it. Several of my squadies and myself fly in there now and then.Its a fun arena and if it kept around 15 to 20 a side iy would be even more fun.Varity is a great thing and HT gave us that.All the planes might not be in there and theres no big advantage that some in the MA prefer but when you pay the fee to play thats your option.Close plane sets seperate the men from the boys.If perks carried over you would probebly see more MA pilots in CT.Simply cause thats the only reason some fly.
 The CT is a great idea but unfortunatly thers rarely enough in ther to make it work and that keeps alot of people from trying it more often.

[Toad]

Yer right DrDea. Why even have separate forums? Let's just wipe them all and have one big forum. That'll make it easy to separate the wheat from the chaff.

[LePaul]

Toad has pretty much hammered all the issues I have with the CT.

On one hand, folks who create/manage/promote the CT claim this big dislike for the Main Arena.  They are happy as can be with an arena with 10-20 people flying, as they've said.  Then we see the occasional "COME AND FLY THE COMBAT THEATER" in the Channel 1 buffer in the Main Area.

So, they despise the Main, yet try to gain more players fishing in it.  But don't they hate the Main?  And wasn't fewer players what they wanted?

I guess my question is, which is it?  What do they want?  Players?

I've flown the CT a handful of times.  Did I have fun, sure!  Do I like it more than the Main?  Not really...I like the larger arena, more players, etc etc.

So, we go through this cycle of New Version = Disgruntled Players who liked the old way = Let's re-promote the largely-vacant-Comabt Theater!  

[DrDea]

personely I prefer the MA.I do like the limited plane set tho in CT.The big problem with CT is its just not catching on.If every time you go there and theres only 3 or 4 people flying your not going to see major base taking but in the same situation you WILL see some really good dog fights.A few more 's too I would wager.If ya havnt tried it give it a shot.If ya have and dont like it thats fine too.Everything isnt for everybody.

Doc

[StracCop]

Increase TC plane set for each historical period, add a naval component, then close MA for 2 weeks and see what happens to TC.

Die-hard arcaders will return to MA, those who want something more will remain in TC.

Try it.

- Dave

[AKSWulfe]

No, you will just see subscription rates drop off dramatically for 2 weeks.
-SW

[StracCop]

Wrong SW.
Players would adapt..as they did with the Pizza.

Players look for one thing more than anything else....other players to fight.  It doesn't matter where they are, that is what attracts other players.

For CT to become viable it initially needs more players.  Just read the posts.  That is the number one refrain about TC.

- Dave

[Masherbrum]

Now they'll whine about the CT.

I see your point Tumor.  Good thread.

Masher

[AKSWulfe]

The MA is still the MA, the only thing that changed was the map... it became bigger.. and looked different.

Big whoopty change there.

The CT, OTOH, has short icons, 2 countries fighting, "realistic" plane set, etc.

It might be fun for those who like that sorta thing, but for those who don't... then they'll just leave.

For CT to become viable it initially needs more players. Just read the posts.

True, but you know why it needs more players? Cuz most people don't WANT to play there. You can force 'em as much as you like, but I guarantee you, you close the MA for 2 weeks and you won't see anywhere near 450players in the CT during those 2 weeks.
-SW

[StracCop]

Disagree SW.

Try it and see.

If MA is the greater-than-CT venue you perceive it to be then you have nothing to fear.  All will return to normal after the trial.

Perhaps your greatest fear is that the MA won't be the gangbang vulch arena it is now after such a trial.  After all, if enough players decide to frequent CT, then the number of easy targets in MA will also diminish, no?

Is that what MA is to you, the happy arcade-furball-gangbang-vulch hunting ground? CT has potential for players who have outgrown the mindless arcade (MA).  All it needs is a chance.

Denying TC its chance is forcing those who would prefer the experience offered there to play in the MA.

Give TC a chance...

- Dave

P.S.  I'm going to get you to 4000 today SW....

[Tumor]

Originally posted by LePaul

So, they despise the Main, yet try to gain more players fishing in it.  But don't they hate the Main?  And wasn't fewer players what they wanted?
 

Your stereotyping

I like'em both, allot... thats which it is.  I've seen plenty of people in both places.

[AKSWulfe]

Try it and see.

I have flown the CT... or do you mean shutting down the MA? I just can't see HT doing that, he knows it wouldn't be wise.

If MA is the greater-than-CT venue you perceive it to be then you have nothing to fear.  All will return to normal after the trial.

If it wasn't the greater-than-CT venue, then it wouldn't be over loaded with players while the CT sits in the corner with it's limited player base. With all the people complaining about warps and invisible planes, and the reports of it NOT happening in the CT, why didn't more players go into the CT?

haps your greatest fear is that the MA won't be the gangbang vulch arena it is now after such a trial.  After all, if enough players decide to frequent CT, then the number of easy targets in MA will also diminish, no?

I have no fears. You are assuming I do because I am proposing an argument to your idea. Maybe it ain't the problem of where players choose to play, but the fact that many players will probably simply choose to not play at all. A bad business decision, is a bad business decision.

Is that what MA is to you, the happy arcade-furball-gangbang-vulch hunting ground? CT has potential for players who have outgrown the mindless arcade (MA).  All it needs is a chance.

It's had a chance.. it's been sitting there for months now. The CT team has done all it can, but the simply fact is.. people CHOOSE the MA over the CT, they aren't forced to fly there.

Denying TC its chance is forcing those who would prefer the experience offered there to play in the MA.

Like I said, the option is there.. it's obvious no one is being forced to play in the MA, they choose it over the "CT experience".. simple as that.

P.S.  I'm going to get you to 4000 today SW....

Not likely, if you do, I'll sue you for giving me carpal tunnel...
-SW

[MoonJuice]

I tried CT for a week.

It gets boring killing the same guys over and overy again.

When the jets and perk US planes are in the arena then it really gets stupid.

The elitist attitude of some of the people in there is delusional - they are nothing special.

Been there, done that.