Author Topic: my opinion on Aces High (Read 1269 times)

wooty · « **Reply #45 on:** July 20, 2002, 03:33:44 PM »

Well i was right about the immaturity around these parts. A few of you though can take constructive critiscim like an adult, the rest seem to find in amusement by saying im a high schooler or something, that doesnt really make sense to be but ah well, some people just arent creative.

Tracers: When i say lines i mean how the are rendered. They are just simple 2D lines. They arent smoke. Again, while WWIIOL sickens me with its current state, they have the tracers down very well in my opinion. If only flying werent a slideshow and i didnt have to be 100feet away to see someone, eh.

I guess what hurts me most about AH is that everyone says its the best online flightsim out there. I admidt, it is.

That doesnt mean its great. To make an analogy some of you immature types might understand, its the least smelly pile of crap out of several piles of crap, but crap is still crap.

Dont get me wrong, i dont think AH is crap, I just think that HTC is holding themselves back.

I CRS for having the balls to do what they are doing. I wish HTC would have the balls to move on and get with the times.

Im not asking for a complete DX9 feature setup, but come one, Janes WWII Fighters looks hella better then this.

To me really, its the little things that count. I.E Id like to see shells falling from the planes when i fire my guns.

Another thing I think would be really great would be to model overheating.

In this game, notice i typed game and not sim, you can fire every 50 cal round and nothing happens.

Now, go fire a real Browning M2 straight for say, just 200 rounds for one long burst and tell me what happens.

I guess being a small company, money could be an issue and I respect that.

In the end though, I guess im just spoiled by Sims, notice i typed sim(s) and not games(s) as i did earlier, such as IL-2.

It looks great, feels great and plays great. Altho Im only VFR and have never flown anything outside of 182s, IL-2 just feels like Im flying. AH does a pretty good job but still I know HTC can do better.

Oh, and i dont know where some of you got the idea that i like WB, ehk.

Peace.

Kieran · « **Reply #46 on:** July 20, 2002, 03:45:05 PM »

You know, I have never understood the envy so many have for the collective Rats' balls.

Seriously, no one has a gun to your head. This game is like it is out of choice, and it is apparently successful. Many of the things you suggest haven't helped other sims much, have they? I disagree with you wholeheartedly about WWIIOL, too. It has good points, but the warts are still hideous.

First priority in an MMOG is to be fun, next is playable, next is looks.

wooty · « **Reply #47 on:** July 20, 2002, 03:52:09 PM »

"First priority in an MMOG is to be fun, next is playable, next is looks."

Eh, if thats the case we got a LONG way to go but thats just my opinion and if you(you being a generalzation, not you directly Kieran) cant handle MY opinion then you should not be reading this forum. Thats what it is for, public opinion in order to have our opinions.

But hey I could be wrong, HTC may not care about its customers, but despite the fact this does in fact feel like something from 97, it does have heart.

I jsut wish they could get funding somehow to make it better.

oh well.

Kieran · « **Reply #48 on:** July 20, 2002, 03:56:32 PM »

Hey, you stated your opinion, I gave my opinion. Exchange of opinions, public forum?

No way do I think you have to like this game, or hate it or whatever. You do or don't. I think the thing that is a bit abrasive about your post is you seem to indicate a belief that things would be different if HTC was more on the ball. You discount it was a business choice. You have taken the part of the consultant; you know, those fellows that show up and tell you how your successful business isn't and what needs to be done to make it successful (all for a fee). I will give you the benefit of the doubt, though, you didn't ask for money.

Löwe · « **Reply #49 on:** July 20, 2002, 04:16:22 PM »

HELLO -pjk--!

You still the 109F Expertan you were in the old days?
Good to see you old friend .

Gman · « **Reply #50 on:** July 20, 2002, 06:42:00 PM »

What are you reffering to in regards to the .50's? The lack of empty shell casing flying out? From a pilots position in the cockpit he'd never see empty casings coming from his on aircraft if he was looking at his target, and very rarely from a target or wingmans, unless he was VERY close, ie under a few hundred yards, and even then, it would likely be only reflections off the brass.

As for tracers, I'll respectfully disagree with you. I have 4 .50's in inventory, and have owned 2 different semi auto (legal in Canada) M2's, and a half dozen .50 rifles, and 60% of the ammo I have run through them is tracer, mainly as a crowd pleaser. This combined with the 5,000 or so odd other types of tracer I shoot every year gives me ample experience in judging what looks right and what doesn't, and I think AH looks fine, for a game.

WW2offline certainly doesn't look any better.

As for the flight model typical attack that everyone uses on each others fav games/sims, I've only got 40 hours in on my VFR license, but lots of other guys like Toad and Andy bush with tens of thousands of hours between them have made comments each way and the other, and I'll listen to them before I listen to anyone else.

I think the numbers speak for themselves, more people play AH even with all these supposed faults you give it than WB3 by a factor of 20.

Toad · « **Reply #51 on:** July 20, 2002, 09:47:36 PM »

Barely a 5.

Nothing new, no really well turned phrases and the same old accusations hurled out at those who dare to disagree, even politely.

Bah. We've seen much better.

brendo · « **Reply #52 on:** July 21, 2002, 07:56:40 PM »

Well, as a new AH subscriber, who floated around WB for many years.....(I'm going to a mini-con of hardcore WBIII guys next weekend - what happens when I bring out Aces High?)....

I must admit that the graphics engine in AH is definately old generation. Things can be old school at times and it was one of the things that initially put me off. The game actually looks quite good with 4x anti-aliasing and runs fine, but I cant read the friendly icon names, so I cant use it.

Initial mega-ugly mip-mapping and pixel shimmering is fixed by running maximum ansiotropic filtering. 100% fix.

Tracers are great. Dust and water hits look awesome.
New generation smoke and flak burst look great.
Clouds kick ass. They are implemented in correct shapes, with volumetic masses/storms as well as little fluffy ones.
Aircraft models are OK.

With Mitsu's sound pack, and the AWESOME AH sound coding, the sound immersion is even superb. If I am in a ground vehicle at an airbase under attack, I just turn my engine off to get a better feel for the action. Absolutely 10 out of 10 for sound in AH.

Roll is modeled correctly in AH IMHO. WBIII is toejamhouse.... like hell a 190 would take 120 degrees to stop a fast roll. I have guncamera footage that proved to me that WBIII was wrong (p51 demonstating near instant roll reversals...109 on his tail), but I gave up on telling people there.

I have no dramas with the AH damage model....good enough. I will never be satisfied with any sims until little chunks can be blown off the airframe.

AH MA gameplay is mostly FPS 0 feet firball die kill die dweeb style, which might be bad, if that is all that happened. But there are always enough other players on that take things to the next level.... I 20000 feet dogfights and bomber interept or field attack missions.

My personal view of AH is that is is a well developed, well rounded sim. The old style graphics engine annoys me, but the gameplay makes up for it.

marauder · « **Reply #53 on:** July 22, 2002, 02:30:47 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by Wilbus
We ARE superior to people who play FPS games.

LOL!!:D

robsan · « **Reply #54 on:** July 22, 2002, 03:36:02 AM »

oh well

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #55 on:** July 22, 2002, 09:24:58 AM »

Well, I only got one thing to say...

Il2, WWIIOl, WB, AH... if one ain't a sim, none of 'em are.

(psst: AH REQUIRES DX8.0)
-SW

Wlfgng · « **Reply #56 on:** July 22, 2002, 09:33:24 AM »

buh-bye Envy.. aptly named.

you lose again.. you get the same response here as you got on the Warbirds BBS

later loser

humble · « **Reply #57 on:** July 22, 2002, 02:36:58 PM »

Hmmm,

Jumped on this one late but even so...I don't think you really bothered to download the game. Comments on Direct X, dopler, artwork, flight modeling etc lead me to believe you either have ulterior motives or are simply a moron. The current AH product has numerous issues and problems still to be resolved...but none of the points you mentioned even come close. As for the D9 vs spit 1...well I can think of a 100 sticks here be thinking ...bring them perkies down to me. And if you get hosed...so what.

udet · « **Reply #58 on:** July 22, 2002, 04:36:25 PM »

scru un wooty,I don't have a Geforce and a 1400MHZ processor and I can't afford to get one in the near future.

-EnVY- · « **Reply #59 on:** July 22, 2002, 05:02:58 PM »

What was that wlfgng? Yeah, you're right. I'm envious of you, man. You probably like to use cute little

's and

's to punctuate your fine life and can milk your own fatty man-br3@sts, and I'm certainly envious of that.

Meet me at 20k and I'll give you a Pizza

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And don't call me a loser...it hurts.