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Offline mietla

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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2002, 04:43:48 PM »
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...I find it hard to believe JFK would send the National Guard against a senator of his own party.



An excellent troll anyway . Facts, schmacts, as long as the demagogery works on stupid and ignorant.

A typical dem ticket.

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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2002, 05:19:09 PM »
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That is very interesting history for sure then.I find it hard to believe JFK would send the National Guard against a senator of his own party.


The South remained a very strange mix of party and ideology after the Civil War in the United States up until the late 1980s/early 1990s.  While the national Republican and national Democratic parties found their own ideological niches (left of center for Democrats, right of center for Republicans ideologically), the South remained staunchly Democrat and strongly conservative.  Lincoln, after all, was a Republican, and much of the post-Civil War, post-Reconstruction South wasn't about to elect a Republican regardless of his ideology.  Virginia, for example, didn't elect its first Republican governor until 1969.

The result was that, over time, the Democratic party, long associated with racism and segregation in the South and elsewhere, liberalized and began including the classic constituencies now associated with them.  In the meantime, the Republican party began gravitating toward a conservative constituency.  All the while, the South remained out of step with the national ideologies of their parties... so much so in fact that by the 1950s and 1960s, northern Republicans were more "liberal" than most Southern Democrats.  The 1964 Civil Rights Bill was passed over the vehement opposition of conservative Southern Democrats by a coalition made up of Northern Democrats and Northern Republicans (Republican congressman Everett Dirksen of Illinois was essential to bringing Republicans to the table on civil rights).

Throughout the Reagan era into the Bush Sr. administration, regions began a long overdue partisan "realignment" in America.  Conservative Southern Democrats converted to the Republican party, and the South largely began voting Republican.  For the most part now, states and regions in the United States tend to vote "accurately," so to speak.  Conservative constituencies North and South vote for Republicans, and more liberal constituencies vote Democrat... as we'd expect.

Hope that helps, SirLoin. :)

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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2002, 05:19:34 PM »
Thnx Dead man..
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« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2002, 05:53:11 PM »
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How many Republican Governors stood in front of school doors,and would not let the blacks in?




I believe Governer George Wallace of the Great State of Alabama was a proud Democrat  when he stood in the schools front door
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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2002, 10:31:08 PM »
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I believe Governer George Wallace of the Great State of Alabama was a proud Democrat  when he stood in the schools front door



Out of curiosity, how many of out neighbours to the south could name the first Prime Minister of Canada, without looking it up?  Or ANY provincial Premier?

No way to confirm this, but I would bet not a one.:p
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« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2002, 10:52:45 PM »
nahh

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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2002, 08:24:57 AM »
I DO! I DO!  (Raises hand!)

It was Tony Blair!  Wasn't it!?

Nah!  Actually it was John Macdonald.  He wasn't actually a native born Canadian though was he?


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« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2002, 08:28:00 AM »
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I DO! I DO!  (Raises hand!)

It was Tony Blair!  Wasn't it!?

Nah!  Actually it was John Macdonald.  He wasn't actually a native born Canadian though was he?


Regards, Shuckins


Lol..I'll have to search that too Shuckins..:)
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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2002, 08:33:29 AM »
Where is Canada, its a place? They never even mentioned Canada in school. :eek:  I thought that it was that seldom used word for the meaning of "I can and I outa" like getting up from bed in the morning when its too cold. You would say, "I canada get outa bed so I canada go to work or school today". Or, "my system has frooze so I canada play ah right now."


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« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2002, 08:51:37 AM »
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I DO! I DO!  (Raises hand!)

It was Tony Blair!  Wasn't it!?

Nah!  Actually it was John Macdonald.  He wasn't actually a native born Canadian though was he?


Regards, Shuckins


Bing Bing Bing!!

You are correct!  Sir John A Macdonald, was in fact, a Scot.  He was one of our founding fathers, the main force behind our first transcontinental railway and was famous for getting chit-faced in Parliment.
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« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2002, 09:54:14 AM »
In the late fifties I was in the south as a kid... I seen colored drinking fountains and colored sections at resteraunts.   they were on their way out.   Most people were pretty much ignoring some of the sillier segregation by then.    A lot of forced integration may have caused more harm than good.   Bad ideas eventually die on their own.  

I really don't want canadians here or as a state.   They are way too socialist for my taste.     The ones who like the U.S. way are here anyway.   I think canada will eventuallyu rethink their government and socialism in general.  Canada is so underpopulated that the effect os a lot of it's laws are not felt by a majority of it's "laid back" citizens..   In Idaho for instance, who cares about a seat belt law on deserted roads?

I fear a large block of canadians voting in U.S. elections.
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« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2002, 10:00:27 AM »
Really...:o
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« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2002, 10:17:30 AM »
Canada will be having a civil war first. Then there will likely be some type of re ordering of the borders.

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« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2002, 10:32:18 AM »
I can think one one real good reason why we don't wanna annex Canada.

French-Canadians.

I often find them even more despicable than the French.

Even the rest of Canada can't stand havin the miserable lil toejams mucking about... but the liberal Canadian left wouldn't let 'em form their own their own lil pompous-ass country for fear we'd nuke the lil arrogant froggy turds right off the planet.

We would, ya know.

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« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2002, 10:51:24 AM »
Gotta go with Hang on this one.

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