Author Topic: CH Fighterstick spikes (Read 1114 times)

Fariz · « **on:** July 21, 2002, 04:18:34 PM »

Hi all,

Got a set of CH products, and extremely disappointed. Had problem with pedals, fixed it, now got joystick spiking badly. It is CH Fighterstick USB, new, only 6 days in use, and spiking along x and y already. Any suggestions?

AKWarp · « **Reply #1 on:** July 21, 2002, 08:29:54 PM »

Fariz,

Have you calibrated the stick? If that doesn't help, I would suggest sending them back to CH.

I have an old gameport Combat stick that's 7 years old and it still works like brand new. I've since replaced everything with USB versions and have no problems yet.

Spiking could also be another problem with your system, not just the stick...but CH is pretty good about exchanging stuff from what I hear. Might want to try a new stick and see.

You might also consider deleting and reinstalling everything.

Good luck......

Fariz · « **Reply #2 on:** July 22, 2002, 05:54:32 AM »

I do not know, may be what I get is normal for CH products? This is what I get

1) Rudder
2) Throttle
3) Roll
4) Pitch.

It is only about week of my using it, were no spikes at day 1, at least very minor ones.

I kept all controls on fixed position, did not moved during taking this picture.

Please let me know if you get a simular spikes with your CH products.

Thanks,

Saintaw · « **Reply #3 on:** July 22, 2002, 06:30:37 AM »

Lines arew mostly flat here Fariz (CH USB Setup), Did you try setting up a CH Joystick Device and calibrating it in the CHCtlMgr (not in windoze calibration mode). That's how I get mine working.

Wotan · « **Reply #4 on:** July 22, 2002, 06:49:46 AM »

Fariz do you know that pitch roll are also controlled by the the 2 "rotary thingies" (I have a ch fighter stick) on the bottom and right of the stick itself. Center these and recalibrate. More the likely thats why the "cross" on the image you provided is off center.

Also get the newest version of cntrl manager from the ch web site and install it. Follow the directions. Use the ch delete program and unistall all ch stuff.

I have ch pro ped, chh pro throttle, ch fighterstick and am quite happy with them.

Once you install the cntrl manager calibrate your stick in it.

Fariz · « **Reply #5 on:** July 22, 2002, 06:55:01 AM »

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Originally posted by Wotan
Fariz do you know that pitch roll are also controlled by the the 2 "rotary thingies" (I have a ch fighter stick) on the bottom and right of the stick itself. Center these and recalibrate. More the likely thats why the "cross" on the image you provided is off center.

Also get the newest version of cntrl manager from the ch web site and install it. Follow the directions. Use the ch delete program and unistall all ch stuff.

I have ch pro ped, chh pro throttle, ch fighterstick and am quite happy with them.

Once you install the cntrl manager calibrate your stick in it.

I have latest version of CH control manager, calibrated with it, and with AH.

I centered wheels. They joystick cross is not centered because I moved it a bit, to the position where the spikes are more often.

I gonna try to check stick on other computer to see, if the problem is somehow connected with my computer.

Fariz

Wanker · « **Reply #6 on:** July 22, 2002, 07:09:00 AM »

Fariz, are you plugged directly into the USB ports on your PC, or are you plugged into a USB hub? If you're plugged into a USB hub I would recommend trying to plug directly into the ports on the back on your pc and see if that helps. I had a situation similar to yours where the USB hub was the problem.

Good luck!

sax · « **Reply #7 on:** July 22, 2002, 08:29:43 AM »

Beemer has the exact same set-up as you Fariz, same problem.

Best guess is directx 8.1 is screwing it up. Having sliders all the way up and deadband all the way down helps but doesn't eliminate the problem.

Fariz · « **Reply #8 on:** July 22, 2002, 09:22:06 AM »

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Originally posted by banana
Fariz, are you plugged directly into the USB ports on your PC, or are you plugged into a USB hub? If you're plugged into a USB hub I would recommend trying to plug directly into the ports on the back on your pc and see if that helps. I had a situation similar to yours where the USB hub was the problem.

Good luck!

Thanks Hope I sort it out, hardly ever had anything so frustrating before.

I installed it into USB port, but I am almost sure it is USB problems. I got my second computer, same OS, same version of drivers, same version of AH, and got neglectable spikes. In contrast on my main computer spiking is growing, and soon it will be unplayable. I am going to buy a separate USB host controller card, and try to install it to check if USB is a problem. If it will not work, will get myself Windows XP, and install all drivers etc. under it. One of 2 shall get this problem, I hope.

Fariz · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2002, 09:25:14 AM »

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Originally posted by sax
Beemer has the exact same set-up as you Fariz, same problem.

Best guess is directx 8.1 is screwing it up. Having sliders all the way up and deadband all the way down helps but doesn't eliminate the problem.

Nope, I tried it with both 8.1 and 8.0a, same result. Even tried it with developers debug version of DirectX, seems problem is not with DirectX.

Do you know if Beemer tried a different USB card to fix this problem? Can you contact him and ask this question? Will greatly apreciate a help with it, thanks.

DrDea · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2002, 09:54:45 AM »

Just got the CH yoke and pro pedals last week.I sent the yoke back today to get the F16 fighterstick.Dont try the yoke.Bad choice in flight sticks for aces.

LoneStarBuckeye · « **Reply #11 on:** July 22, 2002, 11:56:07 AM »

What operating system and Motherboard chipset are you using? If you are using Win98 and a Via chipset, I would suspect the USB ports. I had bad USB problems with Win98 and a Via chipset that I could not eliminate until I bought a separate four-port USB card from Belkin. You might check out http://www.usbman.com for information about USB problems.

Fariz · « **Reply #12 on:** July 22, 2002, 01:31:46 PM »

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Originally posted by LoneStarBuckeye
What operating system and Motherboard chipset are you using? If you are using Win98 and a Via chipset, I would suspect the USB ports. I had bad USB problems with Win98 and a Via chipset that I could not eliminate until I bought a separate four-port USB card from Belkin. You might check out http://www.usbman.com for information about USB problems.

VIA and Win98. Gonna buy a USB host card tomorrow (if will find any here). Almost sure it is USB, if it is not, then will try other things.

sax · « **Reply #13 on:** July 22, 2002, 02:34:28 PM »

Hasn't tried that Fariz, please post if it fixes the problem.

weazel · « **Reply #14 on:** July 22, 2002, 08:54:22 PM »

Have you tried the VIA USB filter patch for Win98?