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« on: July 21, 2002, 04:40:45 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2002, 04:52:51 PM »
Marder III with a Russian 7.62cm gun.

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2002, 05:25:07 PM »
Actually...

I think that is a Panzerjaeger 38 (look at the shape of the gunshield). Armed with a PAK 36 (r) (a captured russian 76,2 mm AT gun)

The Marder III (both the "m" variant and the "h" variant) was armed with a German PAK 40/3 (75 mm AT gun)
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2002, 05:53:35 PM »
Yeah, its a panzer cause in Saving Private Ryan I remember the turret of some tanks looking like that, that was BEFORE the guys tossed the burning gas filled bottles onto the turret, then it looked like Dante's Peak

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2002, 06:27:06 PM »
PanzerJäger 38(t) für 7.62cm PaK36(r), Sd.Kfz.139, 'Marder III'. Distinct from the Sd.Kfz 138 'Marder III', produced in two variants, the '7.5cm PaK40/3 auf PzKpfw 38(t) Ausf H' and '7.5cm PaK40/3 auf PzKpfw 38(t) Ausf M'.



This version of the Marder III was also based on Panzerkampfwagen 38(t) light tank, like the Sd.Kfz 138. It was designated Panzerjäger 38(t) für 7.62cm PaK36(r), and was armed with a captured Soviet 76.2mm PaK 36(r) L/51 anti-tank gun rechambered to accept German 75mm PaK 40 ammunition. Some guns were not fitted with a muzzle brake. The standard Panzerkampfwagen 38(t) light tank, with its turret and top superstructure removed, was fitted with a superstructure to form the fighting compartment for a four-man crew. The fighting compartment was open at the top and rear, and the slightly extended gun shield offered the only protection for the crew. The vehicle carried 30 rounds of ammunition. The main armament could be traversed 21 degrees to the left and right. In addition to the main gun, a 7.92mm MG 37(t) was mounted in the front hull. Armor protection ranged from 10 to 50mm.

From April to November 1942, BMM produced 344 units (177 based on Ausf G and 167 on Ausf H), and an additional 19 were converted in 1943. Marder IIIs were issued to Panzerjäger Abteilungen and served mainly on the Eastern Front, but 66 were also delivered to North Africa from July to November 1942. In North Africa, the Marder III served with the 15th Panzer Division (33rd Panzerjäger Abteilung) and 39th Panzerjäger Abteilung. It proved to be very effective against British Matilda II tanks, and was often thought to be a mobile version of the 88mm gun.
In 1945, a number of Marder III vehicles ended up in use by the Czechoslovak Army as ST-II (Stihac Tanku).

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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2002, 07:19:37 PM »
All three were called Marder III. This one mounted the Commie gun.  :)

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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2002, 02:02:11 AM »
Actualy the answer I was looking for was "jerry can", but Grunheartz and the rest of learned Breathern have a point:)


 
Marder III. This one mounted the Commie gun, it is:)

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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2002, 07:13:24 PM »
i know what that is its a "jerry can"
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