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Offline Innominate

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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2002, 03:26:26 AM »
The big problem with the f4u4, and spit14 is thier tags.  The cost isn't the problem. These planes are not much fun to fly in BnZ type attack, and free planes will all do it just as well.  When you have gangbang tags, that is the only type of fight any plane can survive.

A spit14 or f4u4 will outperform another plane dramaticly.  However, against five, the performance difference isn't going to help you.

The bottom line is that, the gangbang tags require the planes to be flown too conservatively.  If you get into a position where more than one plane can target you, you're going to be forced to run, or possibly killed.  Flying like this requires spending too much time getting altitude, too little time fighting, and as the usage stats show, obviously isn't fun.

Me262: 1158 kills
Tempest: 724 kills

Spit14: 376 kills
F4U-4: 297 kills

C-47: 365 kills
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2002, 06:00:27 AM »
Spit 14 is a roping monster..pure and simple.I have only encountered one pilot in the MA that tried to use it in this manner...Don't know who it was cause I got the hell outta that hopeless situation...I'm surprised the hardcore Luftwaffles haven't adopted this plane as a "captured" ride..:)
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2002, 06:08:39 AM »
I will not fly the Spit 14 ever at it's current price.

Good post Karnak BTW.

So what do we feel is a reasonable price for the XIV/U4 anyway...

15 each gets my vote.

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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2002, 06:16:50 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2002, 06:27:38 AM »
what they said... please get rid of the tag
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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2002, 07:33:17 AM »
Flew a Spit 14 for the first time the other night. Thing handles great. Found a few cons and decided to engage. The Bish must have put out a nationwide manhunt bulletin, because about 2 minutes later I had 5 or 6 P51s swarming all over me. I eventually lost a wingtip to a HO shot and augered in. Not whining, I'd probably do the same thing, but get rid of the tag. Attracts way too much attention for a plane that is slower than many unperked planes in the MA.

Lower the price to about 40, ditch the tag.
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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2002, 08:07:48 AM »
Considering that nothing can outclimb it to 20,000 feet (I've tested it against the G10 offline), it should be 100 perks.
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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2002, 08:28:29 AM »
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I did Latin at school, so I should be aware, but.... in the excitement


Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt, tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt.   :)
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Offline VWE001

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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2002, 08:39:59 AM »
It costs 60 perkies because HTC really hates Spitty dweebs... :eek:
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« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2002, 08:41:20 AM »
Now Raub, that's not how it went.. at least from the other side.

You were high over one of our last fields on the home island at Ndisles or high over the factory thingie nearby.

Voss was up there but below you and you were trying to nail him right?

There were 3 of us TAS way below you headed up to 15 I think to try and stem the onslaught of GANGING nme's that were joined at the hip with the other country trying to reset us poor Bish.

Well you kept chasing round and round with Voss and getting lower and lower as we slowly climbed higher and higher... and then ya goofed.

IIRC, you switched off Voss and made a pass at me..... that put you below Voss, WildThing and Beemer if only for a short while.

Correctly assessing you as the greatest threat in the local area, with more enemies launching off 15 in droves and headed our way, it was decided over Vox that you had to go before the furball started low.... othewise you were going to have a field day.

It was Voss that clipped your wing tip.

Anyway, that's how I remember that. It wasn't so much "Kill the Spit XIV Perk Plane!" It was.. "if that guy's still around when the furball starts, he'll B&Z us without a care."

Jeebuz... you were over our heads for five minutes and could have bugged out anytime you liked if the situation looked dicey.

Still think you'd have been OK if you hadn't switched off Voss and dove on me though.

Anyway, that's how I remember that.  YMMV.  ;)
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« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2002, 10:51:33 AM »
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Originally posted by Karnak
Since when were Jugs the aircraft that things were measured against?


I think SKurj meant it for thrila who in his post (the one that started this thread) told how he was shot down by one while flying Spit14.

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« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2002, 11:29:25 AM »
That is an interesting observation..
the k/d rate is low because people use it by accident..
but that automatically means that it would be used even less then it is....
I think that both of those planes should be a lower perk value. but should have thier own icon....

I would like to see what either of these planes would accomplish flown as a unit of 4 planes supporting each other.

Of the planes in the game that hide under genaric icons I think the 190D9 is probably the most visually and capability distincitve from its fellow 190s. It looks alot more llike a 152 then then a 190a5. The jugs perform to much allike to wory about an icon till the 47M or N get here. The 109s except the E look so much alike that enemies likley never new wether it was a 109F4 or a K4 without looking at the calander.
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« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2002, 11:35:21 AM »
DUMP THE PERK ICONS!!!!

I don't fly perks except for the 262 on occasion. I do think the perk icons should be removed on the perk planes that are the same basic model of others.

F4Us should be an F4U icon, no matter what version
F4U-1
F4U-C
F4U-D
F4U-4

Spits should be a SPIT icon, no matter what version
Spit I
Spit V
Seafire
Spit IX
Spit XIV

If you want to know which one your up against... get close and take a look at the paint job. That's how we do it against 109s and FW190s and P51s and Hurricanes and JU88s and YAKs.

Icons should be generic model only. Version should not be given away as a "I AM A PERK PLANE" billboard.

Tempests, TA-152s and Me-262s , well, your screwed, you are your own model type. Auguably, you could almost put TYPH on a Tempest, or 190 on a TA-152, but nothing and no one can mistake a 262 :D
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« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2002, 11:37:22 AM »
Great posts Karnak. So So True!

Please get rid of the gang Bang Icon at least HTC
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I was so looking forward to flying the 14
But the way it is now Whats the point:rolleyes:







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Offline Raubvogel

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« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2002, 11:53:00 AM »
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Correctly assessing you as the greatest threat in the local area, with more enemies launching off 15 in droves and headed our way, it was decided over Vox that you had to go before the furball started low.... othewise you were going to have a field day.
Anyway, that's how I remember that.  YMMV.  ;)


Well, alcohol does affect my memory...(and my typing skills-went to tell a squaddie how I had died, ended up broadcasting it on ch1 and looking like a whiner :p) You're pretty much right. I still had alt and E and was coming back over the top on the 51...he pointed his nose up and took off my wingtip...and that was the end of that. Not whining, it was a good kill.

Would you have made the same decision if the icon had just said "Spit"? Probably not. That's my point.


Back to the original topic: Spit 14 should have the icon changed. :)
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