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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2002, 05:20:00 PM »
Actualy,the best your going to get is:

 G4M2a model 24C:

 nose:one 13mm Type 2 and one 7.7mm Type 92

 Dorsal turet: one 20mm Type 99 mk II

 Beam blisters/hatches: two 20mm Type 99 mk II(thats one in each)

 Tail: 20mm mk II(one)

So at the best you would have 4 Cannons firing at once althought I seriously doubt that the covered arks would overlap suficentaly to allow this.

 Also the Betty is extreamy easy to kill, they were dubed the "one Shot Lighter" for a reasion:)

 The Peggy we have is a much better machine, and the Ho 103's and Ho -5 cannon on it are better defensive weapons than the 20mm Type 99 MK II, they have a much Higher rof. It also would take HTC a consederable amount of thime to build us a Betty, time better spen filling whole's in the Japanese plane set. In the same time it takes them to build a Betty we could have a couple fighter, or Maybe a Grace and a Fighter. Or a JUddy and a Fighter.

 

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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2002, 05:23:07 PM »
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Actualy,the best your going to get is:

 G4M2a model 24C:

 Nose: one 13mm Type 2 and one 7.7mm Type 92

 Dorsal turet: one 20mm Type 99 mk II

 Beam blisters/hatches: two 20mm Type 99 mk II(thats one in each)

 Tail: 20mm mk II(one)

So at the best you would have 4 Cannons firing at once althought I seriously doubt that the covered arks would overlap suficentaly to allow this.

 Also the Betty is extreamy easy to kill, they were dubed the "one Shot Lighter" for a reasion:)

 The Peggy we have is a much better machine, and the Ho 103's and Ho -5 cannon on it are better defensive weapons than the 20mm Type 99 MK II, they have a much Higher rof. It also would take HTC a consederable amount of thime to build us a Betty, time better spen filling whole's in the Japanese plane set. In the same time it takes them to build a Betty we could have a couple fighter, or Maybe a Grace and a Fighter. Or a JUddy and a Fighter.

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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2002, 08:27:42 PM »
Judy, Jill, Emily...they would be good additions.

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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2002, 01:08:39 AM »
Ja, Emily had heavy defensive too, I've read, & plenty of range, but no high alt capability to speak of & slow

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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2002, 02:50:45 AM »
whgates3,

Er, the Emily had better high altitude capability than the Lancaster.  Could make 290mph, faster than either the G4M "Betty", B-17G or Lancaster.  It climbed at a rate nearly 3 times that of the Lancaster.  It had armored crew positions, fully protected fuel tanks and was very sturdily built.

Here is a synopsis:

Engines: four Mitsubishi MK4Q Kasei 22 at 1,850hp.
Speed: 290mph
Ceiling: 29,000ft
Climb: 10 minutes, 12 seconds to 16,400ft. Average climb of 1,600ft per minute.
Range: 4,450 miles.
Armament: five 20mm Type 99 Model 1 cannon, one each in bow, dorsal, tail turrets and two beam hatches, and four 7.7mm Type 92 machine-guns, one each in ventral, port and starboard fuselage sides and cockpit hatches.
Ordanance: eight 250kg bombs or two 800kg torpedoes.
Number Built: 167 of all versions. The H8K2 was the major version with 112 built.

This is quite probably the most capable bomber the Japanese used in WWII. Quite frankly, compared to the Allies, the Japanese are screwed when it comes to attacking things. The H8K2 can at least carry 8 550lb bombs, that is enough to inflict some damage and is twice as much as any other Japanese bomber that I have seen. The H8K2 also has the destinction of being extremely durable, quite possibly the most durable aircraft feilded by any nation in WWII. Because the H8K2 is a flying boat it would have to be enabled only at ports and coastal bases (where it would spawn in the water like a PT Boat).
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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2002, 02:55:33 AM »
The Emily would add a bunch to the Game imo, The addation of float/sea planes would be so freaking cool:)

 She would add much for Japanese side playabality in scenarious, and in the CT.
 
 She would be a usefull MA bomber type, bristling with 20mm cannons.

 The availabilty of Planes from the Ports awould be great:)

 Special coastal V bases/ Seaplane bases could be added.

 Free saki for all would nice too, ya know I realy do like saki, A nice high grade saki, wounderfull stuff so pure and clean it is you are almost better off for drinking it:) I like mine chilled.

 Did I get side tracked.....

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« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2002, 03:38:43 AM »
brady,

Its spelled "sake".
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« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2002, 04:01:41 AM »
Karnak, I follow you, H8K Emily could carry these bombs:

16 x 60kg bombs
8 x 250kg bombs
2 x 800kg bombs
2 x 1500kg bombs
2 x 800kg torpedos

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« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2002, 04:33:30 AM »
TY Karnak: my poor spelling is legendary :) TY all for your paticence.

     

 Mitsu, is their a good source for picks on the Emily, I mean if HTC wanted to model it could they?

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« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2002, 04:42:11 AM »
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Karnak, I follow you, H8K Emily could carry these bombs:

16 x 60kg bombs
8 x 250kg bombs
2 x 800kg bombs
2 x 1500kg bombs
2 x 800kg torpedos


That would be great.  The two 1500kg bombs might be few in number, but they'd hit hard where they landed.  that is 6,600lbs of bombs.  Far, far better than any other Japanese aircraft.
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« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2002, 05:34:43 AM »
That means H8K with 3 ship-formation can defeat enemy HQ. :)

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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2002, 03:41:01 PM »
wow karnak, i thought all those flying boats were a bunch of big oafs lumbering around at 140 mph, & i'd read in so many different places that the betty was fast w/ great climb (for a bomber) - - guess i shoulda read a book or something - or maybe just looked at those 4 big engines....

how about Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka "Baka" as perk ride for nonconformists

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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2002, 04:13:21 PM »
whgates3,

You are correct about most flying boats, but there are a few that stand out.  The H8K "Emily" is considered to be the single biggest advance for flying boats ever, and remained the best and most sophisticated flying boat in the world for many years after WWII.

H8K "Emily" shots:









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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2002, 07:18:45 PM »
Man I wish they would put her in a Building:(

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« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2002, 03:06:50 AM »
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Mitsu, is their a good source for picks on the Emily, I mean if HTC wanted to model it could they?


Yes I have a good source.

I'll scan some samples images of them to the new topic.