Its no wonder that fundamentalist Muslims are messed up in the head...

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Thrawn
Less and less ....

Wrong as usual Thrawn, 70% are done in the US.

[midnight Target]

I'm not sensitive. I was born in the 50's. We all got clipped back then. Sheesh it almost put me into the single digit length category .

In the US 65% of male babies are circumcised. In England I believe the rate is 3.5%. There is a movement underway in England now saying the rate of 3.5% is abnormally high.

The AAP (American Association of Pediatricians) is against the practice also.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Well, its not like your not known to put your head in the sand

I stand by mine, which, I might add, is supported by the AMA.

 

It wasn't in 1999. Has something changed?

"Existing scientific evidence demonstrates potential medical benefits of newborn male circumcision; however, these data are not sufficient to recommend routine neonatal circumcision."

oh... source: http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/article/2036-2511.html

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Ripsnort


Wrong as usual Thrawn, 70% are done in the US.

Dickhead has usual Rip.

Your statement makes no sense, in the context of mine.

By the by, you should have actually read what the Canadian Pediatric Association Society said before using it as a source.

http://www.cps.ca/english/statements/FN/fn96-01.htm

I wonder how much of the rest of your post is unsubstaciated BS?

[Sandman]

One thing to add... the cicumcision I witnessed was done by the Navy Hospital at Balboa and they did not use anesthetic. It was in 1988.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Thrawn


Dickhead has usual Rip.

 

Well, when you resort to name calling, you lost...loser

Read this text Thrawn:

"70% of males are circumsized in the USA."

Need glasses, hollar, I'll send you some.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Ripsnort


Well, when you resort to name calling, you lost...loser

[Samm]

The practice of circumcision stems from religious ritualism. Hygiene is the rationale that is used to perpetuate the practice . I don't recall any local anesthetic being used on the half a dozen circumcisions I witnessed in mid 90s, they squirted some Lido with epi on it afterwards to quell the bleeding . I actually remember being told by a female instructer that they don't feel it. I thought to myself "puhlease.. anyone who says that has obvioulsy not gotten it caught in a zipper" . There are no drawbacks to not having a circumsicion done, the same cannot be said about getting one . Foreskin serves about the same role as the females labia, thank goodness we don't cut those off .

[miko2d]

Originally posted by Curval
I gotta be honest here....both my boys are UNcircumscised.
I just couldn't do it to them.

 I am not and was not considering doing it to my baby untill my niece and my italian relative-by marriage told me that girls/women of relevant circles considered it very important.

 Since it was done in a hospital with local anesthetic on the second day, there was no pain - it took five minutes out of our sight and he was sleeping as peacefully when brought back as when taken away.
 From my personal experience watching babies of my jewish friends - who underwent it without local anesthetic, the pain is comparable to gas or upcoming burp - the baby cries for a few minutes.

 miko

[Samm]

What do you mean by relevant circles ?

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Samm
What do you mean by relevant circles ?

Girls with big breasts.

[miko2d]

Originally posted by Samm
What do you mean by relevant circles?

 Russian/italian/jewish/pushtu/arab community - basically those people who live in the neighbourhood and go to the local school.
 I have no idea what chinese/japanese think about circumcision, but if a japanese girl decides to go out with my boy, she will give him more leeway than a girl from the same culture would regarding the presence/absence of circumcision.

 Basically, in US about 70% of males are circumcised, but in my niece's school 99% are.

 Girls with big breasts.
 Among few things in which I will try to teach my boy to be non-american is the obsession with disproportionate breasts.

 miko

[midnight Target]

You might also want to point out the difference between a joke and a statement of fact, and teach him the ability to refrain from over-analyzing an issue. Both would be helpful.

[Thrawn]

This is in no way statistically accurate, but most of the women I've talked to about the esthetics of circumcised vs uncut, prefer circumcised dick.

Of course, the men in societies that have female circumcision prefer thier women cut as well.

[miko2d]

Originally posted by midnight Target
You might also want to point out the difference between a joke and a statement of fact, and teach him the ability to refrain from over-analyzing an issue. Both would be helpful.

 I do appreciate your joke but the obcession is quite real, so why not take a shot at it?
 Compared to major painfull and dangerous breast surgery that many women undergo becasue of common obsession or even under direct pressure from their mates, the minor matter of circumcision that Rip brugh up is trivial.

 I imagine Taliban scaring their people "No wonder americans are messed up in thehead - they cut their women breasts and stuff them with plastic..."