Author Topic: Black Boxes for Cars (Read 636 times)

midnight Target · « **Reply #15 on:** July 25, 2002, 11:50:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Sikboy

Anyhow, I promise to try to actually be funny in the future. (where have we all heard that before?_

-Sikboy

Nah, You just keep being the same old Sikboy we know and love

miko2d · « **Reply #16 on:** July 25, 2002, 12:30:10 PM »

Sandman_SBM: YES, by gawd I'm a liberal, but that won't stop me from stomping all over my kids privacy when it comes to my motor vehicles.
Your underage children do not have any privacy separate from yours.

Leslie: B). Seat belts not attached.
How does my seatbelt attached make road safer for you? You are afraid that my body flying through the winshield will damage something? But if it stays in the car, it adds mass - hence increases damage - to whatever the car hits.
Or are you one of those socialist guys who know best what's good for me? Will you presume to prevent me from eating what I like? Make me exercise? Read only approved books?

miko

gofaster · « **Reply #17 on:** July 25, 2002, 02:31:32 PM »

Don't believe the hype about detecting unsafe lane changes and exceeding the speed limit. The best the box can do is emit the noise if the car exceeds highway speed. 65 mph in a neighborhood will get you a ticket, but so will 35 mph on a highway.

You best bet to encourage safe driving habits can be found here:
http://www.panozracingschool.com/

Seriously, they're now offering teen driving curriculum in defensive avoidance, safe turning, and high-speed vehicle recovery (like what to do if your right-side wheels wander over the shoulder and you need to get back on the highway). They also go through a comprehensive overview of how a car functions at speed, with terms like "contact patches" and "downforce" and includes lessons in basic auto mechanics. She'll be a better driver for it.

She'll also get to drive on one of the greatest road courses in America.

She could be the next Shawna Robinson or Shirley Muldowney.

nuchpatrick · « **Reply #18 on:** July 25, 2002, 02:51:25 PM »

I agree GoFaster..The black box is not needed. Better drivers ed..and what is really needed is parents bone up and start taking the keys away from little Jonny and Sue.

Thats what my parents did when I got my speeding ticket in High School. I didn't get to drive for 3 months my car sat in the drive way. And lost it another month for showing off and dad happen to see me doing it. Plus it didn't help me having a 76 Mustang II Cobra. Needless to say I went 9 years with out have another speeding ticket.

So its not bad I for my first speeding tick in in 9 years which was last year.. Bad thing was I wasn't paying attention and I was on the cell with a customer.

Paying attention is what it all boils down to.

Sandman · « **Reply #19 on:** July 25, 2002, 03:16:26 PM »

You can only pay attention if you're there.

I like the idea of the black box. It will allow me to observe my child's driving habits without actually being there.

Certainly, this doesn't replace attentive parenting. It's just one more tool in the arsenal.

Udie · « **Reply #20 on:** July 25, 2002, 03:32:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
You can only pay attention if you're there.

I like the idea of the black box. It will allow me to observe my child's driving habits without actually being there.

Certainly, this doesn't replace attentive parenting. It's just one more tool in the arsenal.

Yeah but how good is it going to be if you're daughter, God forbid, has wreck that's her fault. Then the lawyers get a hold of that black box?

It's a trial baloon for the gobment......

Leslie · « **Reply #21 on:** July 25, 2002, 03:43:10 PM »

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Originally posted by miko2d
Sandman_SBM: YES, by gawd I'm a liberal, but that won't stop me from stomping all over my kids privacy when it comes to my motor vehicles.
Your underage children do not have any privacy separate from yours.

Leslie: B). Seat belts not attached.
How does my seatbelt attached make road safer for you? You are afraid that my body flying through the winshield will damage something? But if it stays in the car, it adds mass - hence increases damage - to whatever the car hits.
Or are you one of those socialist guys who know best what's good for me? Will you presume to prevent me from eating what I like? Make me exercise? Read only approved books?

miko

Ah Miko2d...seatbelts attached means the driver is in more control of the car in case of emergency, such as having to leave the road in a hurry. How is a driver going to stay in the driver's position? Not wearing a seatbelt is not being a responsible driver.

No, I'm not a socialist guy. Eat anything you like, read anything you like...that's your business. Don't wear a seatbelt if you don't want to. The fine for not doing so is $25.00.

Have a great day.

Les

john9001 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 25, 2002, 04:28:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM

It will allow me to observe my child's driving habits

a child should not be driving a car

Sandman · « **Reply #23 on:** July 25, 2002, 05:37:00 PM »

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Originally posted by john9001

a child should not be driving a car

They're not old enough to vote and it's illegal to have sex with them.

What do you call them?

gofaster · « **Reply #24 on:** July 26, 2002, 10:00:52 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
You can only pay attention if you're there.

I like the idea of the black box. It will allow me to observe my child's driving habits without actually being there.

Certainly, this doesn't replace attentive parenting. It's just one more tool in the arsenal.

I like your approach, but still favor a stint at the Panoz (pronounced Pay-Nose) School. You might want to register for it yourself, maybe turn it into a mini-vacation to Florida for your and your family (and see Orlando while you're there - both the theme parks and the highest accident rate in Central Florida - good place to point out the do's and don't's of driving because, sure enough, someone will turn left from the far right-hand lane while looking for their hotel).

The only thing the black box is going to tell you is what the instruments are reading: speed, acceleration, braking, miles driven, seatbelt fastened, trays in the full upright position, that sort of thing. For collision avoidance detection, you'll have to move up to a 747-300.

AKIron · « **Reply #25 on:** July 26, 2002, 11:43:27 AM »

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Originally posted by miko2d
Sandman_SBM: YES, by gawd I'm a liberal, but that won't stop me from stomping all over my kids privacy when it comes to my motor vehicles.
Your underage children do not have any privacy separate from yours.

Leslie: B). Seat belts not attached.
How does my seatbelt attached make road safer for you? You are afraid that my body flying through the winshield will damage something? But if it stays in the car, it adds mass - hence increases damage - to whatever the car hits.
Or are you one of those socialist guys who know best what's good for me? Will you presume to prevent me from eating what I like? Make me exercise? Read only approved books?

miko

Seatbelts are good for everyone and not that inconvenient or uncomfortable. One way they make things better for us all is by reducing injuries which results in lower insurance rates overall. Buckle up dammitt.

Udie · « **Reply #26 on:** July 26, 2002, 11:47:41 AM »

side note:

Back in highschool durring drivers ed. they had that silly little simulator that I couldn't wait to drive but thought was stupid once I did. Well I though "this is stupid" cars were pulling out in front of you ever 5 seconds people openning doors of parked cars kids darting out in front of you.

Well after 16 years of driving I can say with out a doubt that those simulators were UNDERmodelled! I'm sure all you guys know this

but Sandman tell your kid to read this post maybe she'll believe me since I'm such a cool man of the world

btw im 50/50 on the black box, the lawyers are the ones that scare me on this issue....

Elfenwolf · « **Reply #27 on:** July 26, 2002, 12:10:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
You can only pay attention if you're there.

I like the idea of the black box. It will allow me to observe my child's driving habits without actually being there.

Certainly, this doesn't replace attentive parenting. It's just one more tool in the arsenal.

I agree Sandman. I got my 17 year old a 95 Honda Civic EX, and I shudder to imagine how she's driving it. I write down mileage to prevent cruising, and the other day I went out turned the key on and the stereo was cranked up so far there was no way she could hear the revs to know when to shift. (She's a girl, therefore incapable of understanding Tachometers). Cute car tho- V-Tec, tinted windows, lowered, custom rims- when I drive it I look like a mid-life crisis on a budget.

Sikboy · « **Reply #28 on:** July 26, 2002, 12:34:07 PM »

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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
when I drive it I look like a mid-life crisis on a budget. [/B]

lol

Sandman · « **Reply #29 on:** July 26, 2002, 06:56:31 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron

Seatbelts are good for everyone and not that inconvenient or uncomfortable. One way they make things better for us all is by reducing injuries which results in lower insurance rates overall. Buckle up dammitt.

I did some off roading once in a Mitsubishi 3000 VR4.

Seatbelts are the only reason I'm alive. In my car they are never optional, and that goes for all occupants.

Angered my mother once because I wouldn't move the car with her unbuckled. She didn't like my argument either. "We are not buckling up for your safety. We're buckling up for mine. I don't want your 110 pound body flying into me, so until you're buckled, we aren't moving."