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Offline Kieran

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« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2002, 08:10:40 PM »
Karnak-

I never mentioned parties, only ideologies.

You're only mentioning half of the equation with regard to the founding fathers and the original administration. Alexander Hamilton favored industrialization, and favored legislation that helped big business. To suggest all the early American leaders were against big business is not accurate.

The conservative viewpoint is that if business does well, then there will be jobs. A different means to the same end, and it requires the recipient to do something for his or her reward. When big business does well, everyone does well- or did you miss the '90's? ;)

Target-

Someday that may be me? Hehe, if only you knew... Grandpa died when my mother was 11, and Grandma contracted terminal breast cancer, and was bedridden. Mom stayed in school until she was 15, but by then the stress of taking care of her dying mother and raising 2 brothers and 2 sisters was too much, and the family needed money. Mom screwed up (like most 16-year-olds might) and became pregnant. Four years and 4 kids later Dad takes off, never to be seen again. Now mom has 8 kids to take care of.

About this time Grandma died. There very often wasn't much food around, and things were always crowded. Before too long my step-father came into the picture. He provided stability and food on the table, but he drank heavily and was physically and mentally abusive. We were still Appalachia poor.

I dreamt of getting out, of going to the army, anything to get away. Then I decided to give college a try. I had been working since I was 14, so I figured the worst that could happen (if I couldn't find work) was that I would quit school and go to the army later. Besides, 14 years of tyrannical abuse didn't engender me to sign up for four more years.

So, I worked two and three jobs at a time, took a little longer to get out, but eventually graduated. God blessed me by giving me a job immediately, and only then did I become middle class. I was 24 years old and, to that point in time, had known nothing but poverty.

Believe me, I've been there. And we never, EVER took a penny from the government. I am not unsympathetic, I simply have a different perspective.

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« Reply #46 on: August 01, 2002, 08:58:04 PM »
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Well... hell... if you already knew what the liberal agenda was, why did you ask?


You got trolled in your own troll? ouch

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« Reply #47 on: August 01, 2002, 09:16:20 PM »
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You got trolled in your own troll? ouch

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I didn't take the bait. :D
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« Reply #48 on: August 01, 2002, 10:17:27 PM »
Been gone all day so I'm getting back into this debate a little late.

Just some random observations:

 
Dowding (Work) :  I haven't got enough money to be a decadent capitalist pig-dog.  Now if the government were to let me keep ;more of my money...:)

Mietla: It is impossible for the government to get out of the morality business because all laws are moral laws.  That is, laws legislate morality, defining what is right and wrong.

My gross pay is $35,000 a year after 25 years of experience and taking into account the degrees I hold.  Between the state and federal government almost $8,000 is held out of my paycheck.  If I could take the part of that amount that goes to Social Security my retirement system would be able to pay me almost triple what the Social Security system would...and I could draw it about 15 years sooner.  I could afford a decent medical insurance policy, buy a decent retirement home, maybe do a little traveling.  Instead, I'll retire to a double-wide modular home, purchase high-mileage used vehicles, sit at home instead of travelling, and pay out about $600 a month of my limited income for medical insurance.  In essence, the government has hurt me financially more than it has helped me.


Regards, Shuckins

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« Reply #49 on: August 01, 2002, 10:19:26 PM »
What a hijack. This is suppose to be about comedians.

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« Reply #50 on: August 01, 2002, 10:36:23 PM »
:D

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Offline Elfenwolf

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« Reply #51 on: August 01, 2002, 10:43:09 PM »
I thought this thread was about why there weren't very many conservative comedians, not about what the liberal agenda is, although I felt Meilta had a great rebuttal post on the subject.

I can go either way here- if liberals wish to claim a monopoly on humor then it's only fair that conservatives lay claim to a monopoly on common sense. In that spirit I give you the following choices:

Who would you rather have as your airline pilot- Toad, a conservative who we all know is by the book and meticilous in his flight preperation, or Robin Williams, a leftist comedian?

Who would you rather have patroling your neighborhood at night- Maverick, a conservative cop we all know doesn't suffer fools gladly and is a by-the-book guy, or Emu Phillips, a leftist comedian?

Who would you rather have teaching your 9th grader- Shuckins, a conservative who listens to a liberal arguement and offers well articulated thought provoking rebuttals, or Chris Rock, a leftist comedian?

Who would you rather have judge you at a trial? Hortlund, a no-nonsense, by-the-book Damn You To Hell conservative, or Rosie O'Donnell, a leftist comedian?

Obviously you would prefer Toad as your pilot. Robin Williams is a recovering cocaine addict who has attention-deficate disorder. I'd feel safer knowing Toad were the pilot of my commercal flight.

Obviously you would prefer Maverick as your beat cop. Emu Phillips is more likely to stand in line with the peeping Toms as they gaze in your window. I'd feel safer if Maverick were patrolling my neighborhood.

Obviously you would prefer Shuckins as your child's teacher. Sorry, but people who listen and respond rationally on a bbs make better teachers than parrots who squack out the old "four legs good two legs bad" nonsense. As a parent he's the kind of teacher I want my child to have.

Obviously you would prefer Rosie O'Donnell sitting in judgement over you. She's compassionate and easily fooled, while Hortlund is cynical and ill tempered and inclined to give everybody the maximum sentance unless, of course, you have blonde hair and blue eyes and look like you're from fine Ayrian stock.

So what have we learned? In the jobs that really count- transportation, law enforcement, education, judicial- in three out of four professions conservatives are better suited.  Sorry, Steve, but my eyes are brown so I know I'd have no chance in your courtroom. (Jest kidding):)






:D

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« Reply #52 on: August 01, 2002, 11:21:28 PM »
Absolutely priceless. :D
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« Reply #53 on: August 02, 2002, 08:11:04 AM »
Wiping coffee off my monitor.... ROFL

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« Reply #54 on: August 02, 2002, 08:23:55 AM »
Shuckins

I couldn't agree more.

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« Reply #55 on: August 02, 2002, 08:42:35 AM »
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Well... hell... if you already knew what the liberal agenda was, why did you ask?



To expose you :)

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« Reply #56 on: August 02, 2002, 09:11:32 AM »
OK Meitla,

Now tell me your agenda, so I can tell you you don't know your agenda.  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #57 on: August 02, 2002, 11:46:33 AM »
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OK Meitla,

Now tell me your agenda, so I can tell you you don't know your agenda.  :rolleyes:


Not hungry




But seriously, read my previous posts. I've already stated it.
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Re: Are all comedians essentially Libreals
« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2002, 12:07:41 PM »
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Are all comedians essentially Libreals


No, but almost all Liberals are clowns.  :D

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« Reply #59 on: August 02, 2002, 01:21:21 PM »
Hey Funk, so you've made it after all :)