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Gloves · « **Reply #1 on:** August 01, 2002, 08:05:25 AM »

Wild guess says and R-boat

nuchpatrick · « **Reply #2 on:** August 01, 2002, 08:21:48 AM »

The Seawolf?

Bonden · « **Reply #3 on:** August 01, 2002, 08:25:14 AM »

Dont know which boat but looks like Groton/New London...

Bonden

Tracer-15 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 01, 2002, 08:48:09 AM »

kinda hard to tell from this view....but maybe a Gato or Balo

robsan · « **Reply #5 on:** August 01, 2002, 08:49:46 AM »

I could be wrong... but it looks like a b/w photo to me...

Hortlund · « **Reply #6 on:** August 01, 2002, 10:33:12 AM »

Well, its not a modern sub...look at the hull, that thing must be noisy as he**.

Gato? <-- wild guess

Gloves · « **Reply #7 on:** August 01, 2002, 12:57:34 PM »

New guess. U-505.

nuchpatrick · « **Reply #8 on:** August 01, 2002, 03:24:57 PM »

First, its a US Sub.. note the US Flag on the con..

Actually, There is/was a Seawolf SSN-197 Lost in action In Oct 1944. Sunk most likely by friendly fire.

And after a hard debate I'd say its a Balo..

Pongo · « **Reply #9 on:** August 01, 2002, 04:37:39 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by nuchpatrick
First, its a US Sub.. note the US Flag on the con..

Actually, There is/was a Seawolf SSN-197 Lost in action In Oct 1944. Sunk most likely by friendly fire.

And after a hard debate I'd say its a Balo..

there was no SSN lost in 1944

Gloves · « **Reply #10 on:** August 01, 2002, 04:49:36 PM »

After looking closer, I agree it's a US sub. BUT U-505 was captured by US forces during WWII. It's quite a story. Check it out. The sub is now in Chicago as a museum. So, a captured German sub flying a US flag during WWII did happen.

HFMudd · « **Reply #11 on:** August 01, 2002, 05:02:13 PM »

USS Growler S-215. My guess is base on the amount of stuff on the conning tower and the high lookout.

This is the only image I'm able to find of the Growler though...

Bonden · « **Reply #12 on:** August 01, 2002, 05:15:18 PM »

First time I was aboard 505 was in 1955 - I was 10. Dont think that is 505 tho.

Bonden

nuchpatrick · « **Reply #13 on:** August 01, 2002, 05:22:02 PM »

Pongo,

An Account of the Sinking of the USS Seawolf SS 197
USS SEAWOLF (SS-197), under the command of LCdr A.M. Bontier, left Brisbane on 21 September 1944 beginning her 15th patrol, and arrived at Manus on 29 September. Leaving Manus on the same day, SEAWOLF was directed to carry certain stores and Army personnel to the east coast of Samar.
On 3 October SEAWOLF and USS NARWHAL (SS-167) exchanged SJ radar recognition signals at 0756. Later the same day an enemy submarine attack was made at 2-32'N;129-18'E, which resulted in the sinking of USS SHELTON. Since there were four friendly submarines in the vicinity of this attack, they were directed to give their positions, and the other three
did, but SEAWOLF was not heard from. On 4 October, SEAWOLF again was directed to report her position, and again she failed to do so.

USS ROWELL and an aircraft attacked a submarine in the vicinity of the attack on SHELTON, having at that time no knowledge of any friendly submarines in the area, and it was thought that SEAWOLF must be held down by these antisubmarine activities. It is possible that SEAWOLF was the submarine attacked.

The report from ROWELL indicates that an apparently lethal attack was conducted in conjunction with a plane which marked the spot with dye. ROWELL established sound contact on the submarine, which then sent long dashes and dots which ROWELL state bore no resemblance to the existing recognition signals. After one of the several hedgehog attacks a small
amount of debris and a large air bubble were seen. It has been established that the Japanese submarine RO-41 sank SHELTON on 3 October, and was able to return to Japan.

In view of the above facts, and the fact that there is no attack listed in the Japanese report of antisubmarine attacks which could account for the loss of SEAWOLF, it is possible that SEAWOLF was sunk by friendly forces in an antisubmarine attack on 3 October 1944, in the vicinity of 2-32'N;129-18'E. It is also possible that she was lost to an operational casualty or as a result of an unrecorded enemy attack.

brady · « **Reply #14 on:** August 01, 2002, 10:30:02 PM »

Gato Class, it is:)

The USS Wahoo, off Mare Is. 1943.

I am halfway through the Book Richard H. O'cane wrote on here, great story.