Guys I'm with Kieran on this one. In a rape/torture situation, the "do what the assailant says" stuff goes out the window, and the first opportunity he'd give me or I could create, my weapon would be coming out and one of us would be going down, and most likely him. If some crook just wants money or my car, have at it, it isn't worth engaging IMO for that, but if he wants my fiancee, sorry, but he's going down, or I am trying.
I took a couple of re refresher courses at Front Site recently, and they trained on this specific engagement. Too bad California is a non CCW state, it would cut down on some of this nonsense.
My best pal is a cop, and my fiancee is in the application process with CPS here in town as well, and both of them agree, don't resist unless it is evident that your assailant is not after money or financial instruments. After that, fights on.
Sure, liberal types will say "you'll just end up hurt, or the poor criminal will be killed, and not subjected to retraining/phsychological treatment, when instead, all we have is 2 raped girls". Well, with HIV so prevalent in jails, being raped by a criminal is a possible death sentence anyway. I'd rather risk being shot by my assailent to prevent someone going through that, and again, odds are that if you have even a small bit of training, you have a HUGE advantage on a criminal in a situation like this. All you have to do is use it.
In this situation, hell, they are just kids, and with few defensive systems being legally available to people in that state, not much you can do I guess. Taking on a guy with a firearm when you don't have one is Hollywood for the most part, unless the guy is uber stupid and gets very close to you, and you get very lucky. I feel sorry for them, especially the girls.
