I was killed in my Panzer(blown up) by a burst of 50 cal fire!, The GV armor model is

[brady]

Seriously I was killed from a 2 sec burst of 50 call fire from a P47, how messed up is that, Blow up mind you not disabled. I know this is not WW2 online we do hot have perfectly modeled GV damage effect's, but somthing I hope will be done to adress how GV damage is modeled in AH.

[GRUNHERZ]

Could be driver kill.  Which GV was it?

[brady]

PzKfW IVH.

[BUG_EAF322]

Maybe it droped some bomb to
or u already been hit

[brady]

No I was undamaged, and I asked the piolet and he told me it was just a burst of MG's.

[GRUNHERZ]

PzIVH has the weakest GV armor in the game.

[Fishu]

You should learn that in AH, .50 calibers are capable of everything, even of being match to the cannons on one vs one basis :>

[Heinkel]

PzIVH has the weakest GV armor in the game

Agreed, if you were in a Heavily armored tank like the m16/m3 you would have lived;)

[Karnak]

In all honesty, I do find the PnZ IV Hs to be the toughest vehicles.  I just don't find them to be anywhere near as tough as I think they should be.

M-3s and M-16s pop.

[brady]

Well, they pop unless you have a M8 37mm gun, then the 50 cal is better for killing them:)

[Karnak]

Normally I use Mosquitoes, and Mossies pop M-3s and M-16s the the quad Hispano love.

Yak-9Ts seem to pop them pretty nicely as well.

[wklink]

I don't know if it is modeled in AH but it was common for P-47s to kill tanks with .50 cals.  They killed Pzkw IVs, Panthers and Tigers by intentionally spraying the planes and letting some rounds bounce up, penetrating the relatively unarmored belly of the tanks.  

Maybe a riccoche round up throught he bottom of the tank perhaps?

[Wotan]

read the post in the general form tom,

it shows that the probability of a pnzr getting killed by 50 cal being lo but also what do you think  the chances are of bouncing 50 cals off dirt or coble stone roads is slim to none. Also a pilot flying at 300-400 being to know that this happened

Pilot stories of killing tanks this way are just that. They may have believed but battle field examinations of destroyed and abandoned tanks show that 0 tanks were found to be killed by 50 cals.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by Wotan
read the post in the general form tom,

it shows that the probability of a pnzr getting killed by 50 cal being lo but also what do you think  the chances are of bouncing 50 cals off dirt or coble stone roads is slim to none. Also a pilot flying at 300-400 being to know that this happened

Pilot stories of killing tanks this way are just that. They may have believed but battle field examinations of destroyed and abandoned tanks show that 0 tanks were found to be killed by 50 cals.

 

Wotan is exactly correct. This "bouncing" .50 rounds off the ground or road surface is myth. First, the rounds would be badly distorted, if not destroyed on contact. Second, a considerable portion of the energy would be depleted. Last, there's the geometry issue.....

Sorry guys, wive's tale trivia.....

BTW, I certainly sympathize with Brady. Last evening I destroyed 3 Panzers with guns only, FM-2 guns to be precise. I would have been greatly annoyed that a fighter with just four .50 cal MGs could knock out my tank and a whole column of tanks with guns alone. Shouldn't happen. I was happy to get the kills, but this does need to be addressed.

My regards,

Widewing

[BenDover]

.50 cals in AH are mostly BS

I really do doubt they were able to pop gvs, and have great accuracy and killing power at range IRL

and to counter that thing about us having much more combat exp than real WW2 vets, try b17 2